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In Reply to: RE: Audiophile Grade Fuses posted by ionman on July 24, 2014 at 20:59:28
Good morning ionman,
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience between the Hi-Fi Tuning and AH fuses, as it seems that in a lot of cases, it might come down to a matter of the systems overall sonic flavor if you will, while some components require more air/sparkle added at the very top end to enhance detailing properties, while others might need a warmer hue, while a few otters might yet - be better off with something more neutral.
I more or less see this factor as I hear/feel how tubes or cabling looms address the different needs of our respective systems as well, like many whom tend to migrate towards the use of Telefunken tubes to add a sense of awakening a somewhat reserved or sluggish component that otherwise glosses over the musical information to much to be enjoyed - while the opposite is needed for components that are a tad overly bright and/or slightly on the analytical side of the audio spectrum, and needs to be toned down - here is where certain British designed tubes come into play from the likes of Mullard - Brimar or original versions of Osram/GEC/Genalex offer what I often refer to as a more human effect to the sound, making things appear more pleasant in nature.
I'm primarily using these fuses in a tube based integrated amp, which I've taken the time to understand its sound, then through demos over the last 2 years, found a pure copper based speaker cable brand/line that worked perfectly between it and my chosen Mini-Monitors in regards to a signature that fitted both, and working further upstream at the source end, in adding a hybrid ( CU/AG ) IC from this same line that added more air/sparkle/attacking on notes in the higher frequencies, as a means of highlighting nunances hidden when it came to piano notes lingering in time as well as properly extended cymbal decay that can be both heard/felt as if they are floating towards the ceiling of the listening area, yet with every little strike put into its proper position across the sound stage/field in such a realistic manner, it draws me deeper into its void.
I guess in hindsight, like most things audio related, this is system dependant as well, so as I view/hear it, there aren't any right or wrongs, in so much as what our system and ears wish to hear that fits both of the requirements down to a " T ".
But as mentioned earlier on, someone else spoke of their fondness towards the HI-Fi Tuning Supreme, and how with both of your endorsements - I shall take both seriously enough to add it to my list of next two purchase, as one never knows what works best in any given system?, unless one is willing to listen more in-depth to said devices to begin with!, but in my mind it's enough to cause me a reason to continue the quest, because at these low prices
( to me, compared to what's invested into ones system that is ) makes it all the more worthwhile from a musical standpoint to investigate even further.
Thanks again for chiming in ionman, and now for something on a different matter.
I'd like to apologize for allowing several posters here get under my skin, and somewhat over reacted with some rather bitter words, which are part of who I am ( raw but real ) but shouldn't been written/spoken out loud if you will, but in the world/neighborhood I grew up in, it was always better to bite ones tongue if they weren't capable of saying anything nice, so I'd rather put that out there to the guys whom seem as if they're always on a negative vibe, trying to rain on someone's parade, once again, I see life as it should be - live and let live, but don't for one second think out the box thinkers should follow your lead, as some ( hopefully most of us? ) can more or less find our own paths with a little bite of assistances here and there, from those whom are willing to share their " truths " instead of misguided anger.
" As I see it dogs and wolves are followers, while men are more then capable of standing alone, if need be, in other words, a follower I am not ".
The quest continues............
Regards,
O_o scar
Follow Ups:
How can a fuse ADD more air/ sparkle?
Hi Ubiquitous Biscuit,
I believe that a audiophile grade fuse can act in a couple ways in order to alter the sound of a stereo component/system or impart a particular sonic signature. The first way a fuse can alter the sound is by "Addition by subtraction". Think of the fuse as a type of filter or choke. If the fuse allows the component to perform better by reducing the filter or opening up the choke then the component can perform at a higher level. This is realized by a reduction of noise in the component or a lowering of the noise floor (i.e. blacker background), so to speak. If there is less noise in the compoenent then you will notice more air/space between instruments and there will be more resolution to the sound. The sound may even become more relaxed and natural.
The other way a fuse can impart a sonic signature to the sound would be from the materials that it is made from. I tend to lean toward copper mainly for my interconnects as I find it to offer a more natural/organic sound compared to silver, which adds speed and detail to the sound but may sound a little lean and sterile. I believe the Hifi Tuning Fuses use a silver wire, which should impart a very detailed but leaner sound. I do not find this to be the case, since the endcaps are coated with gold which tends to impart a warmer sound; therefore, you get the best of both.
These audiophile grade fuses are indeed expensive, but after having them in my system for the past few years there is no way I could be able to enjoy my system,at the level that I currently am, without them.
-Ionman
"An ounce of perception, a pound of obscure." - Neil Peart
The same way your mouth can obviously!, instead of asking weird questions, why not try listening for yourself, and then you tell us, how about it genius.
You had mentioned that some components require more air/sparkle while referencing ion man's use of two different fuses. Are you implying that if your amp does not have the requisite air/sparkle, then the addition of one of the fuses will address this need? Does that mean that the current fuse is somehow inhibiting the inherent air/sparkle lying within, or does that mean that the component is neutral (and doesn't exhibit air/sparkle in the first place) and that the fuse will add air/sparkle?
I think this is a relevant question to the topic.
Okay, relevant point, so it deserves a response.I was more or less referring to one system not so much as the fuses themselves that add a sense of air/sparkle per SE, but things like the metal plating in/on items like ones cabling - AC cord and even fuses to my mind alter the sound, as some would except the theory that gold plating general emphasizes the warmer side of the audio spectrum and is generally heard through the midband area, where as copper is more geared towards bringing a more neutral sound into the mix - by adding warmth, yet with a fuller/richer more pronounced weight that are concentrated between the upper midrange and lower bass extremes, metal plating like say Rhodium have a nice sense of adding extension at the top end with a little bit of refinement added, yet lacks drive/snap if you will.
While lastly silver plating/plated in one form are another tends to emphasize a greater sense of resolution and/or air/sparkle into the mix as far as upper frequencies go, but as always we hear differently, but I'm one that can hear the different frequencies affected by these alloys as presented by their sonic signatures on a whole, as someone mentioned earlier on about the caps being finished in either Silver - Rhodium or Gold, do in fact have an adverse effect on the outcome of what said fuses signature more or less hints at, based purely upon ones perspective of their known sounds as used in plating materials for said connectors or even the wiring harness within any given component - is altered by one selection of silver or copper wiring, but I'm not one for measurements or jargon and tend to voice things accordingly by ear, as they are capable of telling me if something sounds correct!, or if something's off/unnatural?.
It's merely a matter of what each of us then wants to hear?, it's all subjective at best, but where does safety guidelines or ratings have any effect on the outcome if one is merely seeking to gain a higher sense of fidelity or musicality through the use of said devices?, as cabling looms - power cords - isolation devices - tubes and cartridges have a sound of their own, and once introduced to one system, changes the sound/tonality/timbre/texture/pitch of the shading of the instruments themselves - in my mind everything that entered ones system changes the sound from dull/lifeless - neutral/transparent or finally aggressive/analytical as those are in fact the only three flavors/shadings of sound as rendered through our systems, it's merely a matter of which one, each of us then prefers and voice our systems accordingly.
Endgame.
Edits: 07/25/14
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