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I saw this $800 tuner at THE Show, but the distributor had no means of trying it from the room..... But I was kind of intrigued, maybe due to its unique appearance..... I am wondering if anyone has tried or heard this tuner, and the sonic impressions. Thank you much.
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Sparkler Audio's website confirms that the designer and builder Kazutoshi Tsukahara broke off from 47 Labs so the resemblance is no coincidence. I can attest that the AM and FM sound quality is excellent, rivaling the best tuners at any price. I am able to get over 20 listenable FM stations with just an indoor folded dipole here in Anchorage. A long wire wrapped around the supplied ferrite antenna enables adequate AM reception. Tsukahara-san has chosen about a 50 dB S/N threshold to enable FM stereo reception so you will hear weak stations in mono.
1mctous
And, for all of you.
Please find a way to report about radio reception systems, with antennas, from here on in.
TIA
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
"Please find a way to report about radio reception systems, with antennas, from here on in."
I'm not sure what you're actually requesting......
Did my post violate a rule or something?
Based on the primacy of antennas in all radio reception.
How good any tuner sounds can depend on the station's quality.
But beyond that, it depends on -
i) Being driven into 'full limiting'.
ii) By a signal that, as received at the tuner / front end, has low multipath on it.
(Noting that it is difficult to overload an FM stage. I was surprised by that.)
Neither of these two requirements can be reliably achieved by small indoor antennas. Nor by an amplified small indoor antenna.
To whit, tuners will sound different off varying antennas, and the problems of a given station & transmitter, for where the tuner is. So, the 'sound' of a tuner isn't a given.
So, why are so many folks focussed on tuners almost solely?
Driven as above I've never heard a bad sounding tuner, one that was in good nick.
Few of the tuners I've heard in most folks homes sounded all that good. ? A T ribbon hidden away and not pointed. Or worse, a piece of wire.
This is an Audiophile site, with a global presence.
I believe that we should be telling the full story about FM, and AM, too!
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
to HD radio, correct?
Don't wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.
Mark Twain
Granted your comments about antennas.......
But.....
This is a tuners forum...... I thought I could discuss tuners at face value here...... Am I missing something?
A tuner without a good antenna is just a box.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
Whatever happened to it/them?
all the best,
mrh
from Dudley's article, too.
Kind of... uninspiring. Well... at least, kind of unimpressive .
Wonder how they really do sound?
... and, for that matter, how the new tuner that is the actual subject of this thread :) sounds (and how it looks inside, for that matter).
all the best,
mrh
Oy, it is a turd
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
Based on some of the comments here, I should avoid this product..... .... ...........
but I do stand by my assessment of its being uninspiring in side.
all the best,
mrh
It's $1400 retail and it surely looks like 47 labs may be the same thing.
Is it possible that it's better than supertuners from the recent past? i guess it's probably based on $3 chip like all the other 47 Labs High-End audio bits for people listening to 3" full range drivers. It's a whole different universe although I did consider at one point 47 Labs Midnight Blue tuner just because of it's footprint
"It's $1400 retail and it surely looks like 47 labs may be the same thing."I was quoted "$800" by the rep at the show...... And it was the normal price, not a "show price". (Unless the unit had large price increase since the June show.)
The Sparkler unit appears to be wider and only 1/3 as deep as the 47 Lab unit..... The units may be similar, but then again may be totally different.
Edits: 07/25/19
all the best,
mrh
In terms of the "modern" (it's all relative!) era, Parasound's erstwhile Ztuner fairly leaps to mind.Dimensions:
9-1/2" w x 1-3/4" h x 10 " d, 2 " h without feetNet weight: 4 lbs.
In terms of the old school ... Here's a cute little (mono) AM/FM tuner from days gone by, from Bell ( not Bell Labs, of course), as an example of "the old".
The Bell 2255 tuner is quite small; even the Sansui TU-4400 upon which it is perched is narrower-than-usual for many 1970s-era components. :)
(The Bell's 9-1/2 inches wide, same as the above-mentioned Parasound, vs. 15-3/4 inches width for the Sansui)
all the best,
mrh
Edits: 06/20/19 06/20/19 06/20/19
think 47 labs.
enn tee
all the best,
mrh
Like Awe-d-o-file below, I'm in the "radio nerd" category. But damn, who chose that as a name for an electronics company?
Thanks for the post, Todd. I'm glad to know there's companies out there who haven't given up on radio.
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
tele from the Greek for " far off, at a distance "
funken = " spark(s) " auf DeutschRadio was all about sparks, Sparky* :)
The spark-gap transmitter was the genesis of the genre.
... but I know that you know that already! :)____
* Radio operators in the early days were quaintly nicknamed "Sparky"
all the best,
mrh
Edits: 06/17/19
...any of it. Thanks.
Still, I'll stand by my assertion that however historically accurate they're trying to be with that name, it still conjures up a fireworks show image for me.
Sorta like Syphilitic Dating Service, Inc. would, even after they inform me that "Syphilitic" is simply their family's last name.
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
For AM he should use a low power transmitter in the room. Thats a go to method at Antique radio fairs A window if there was one should allow "some" maybe not a lot of decent FM. Of course I love the look too as a radio nerds.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
Remember those FM transmitters that let us listen to our CD players in the minivan, ca. early 1990s?
I do.
Heck, there's one around here... someplace.Alternatively, there are - or were, at any rate! - a bevy of more or less legal FM "micro" transmitters, of varying quality, from companies like Ramsey Electronics. Ramsey is no longer in that business (see link below). :p
all the best,
mrh
Edits: 06/11/19 06/11/19
Oh sure. Ramsey was go to in that niche.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
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