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I just purchased a used Decware ZT PRE pre amp which requires using 6N1P tubes and no substitutes. I wanted to replace the tubes already in the pre amp and ordered a "matched pair" of 6N1P Super Cryo tubes from
www.Cryoset.com (Cryoset Online Store).
Can anyone comment on whether a cryoed tube is any better "sound wise" than a non-cryoed tube? Are there any real benefits? Thanks for your response and know I appreciate all comments. Thanks much.
musicmanbob
An African American audio, classical & jazz music lover. I love all great jazz, classical and folk music.
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Not sure but Bob on ebay you can get 8 of these tubes from various seller shipped to you for 24.00 and all with 100 percent feedback sellers.Thats where I bought my last batch and they were all magnificent tubes.
so far as I can hear.
Agreed. I've tried cryoed preamp tubes, and they seem to present a lower overall noise floor, thereby making small details in the music easier to discern.
Sondek
Yo Dude - pick a side 8^D
You agree that it doesn't make a difference.
Then you tell how it does make a difference.
Which one is it?
DanL
Posted in the wrong place. I DO think they make a positive difference.
has anyone heard a difference between response of your system at usual room temperature or say, at colder weather? Say around freezing--- if you have capability to lower the room temp to around freezing? I know liquid nitrogen temp would be impractical, but anyone notice slight variance in tone and response with slight ambient temp changes.Versus as 70-degrees F or even 90-dgrrees F? I notice guitar amps/house systems sounds better at slightly lower temp, than warmer.
Ok... sorry, I will crawl back under my rock.
But, thanks for any response.
Edits: 03/27/12 03/27/12
FL
Do you realize what happens to metals when they are cryo'd?
Do you know when it is cold that guitars go out of tune?
Saying the temperature doesn't effect sound is really dumb.
Any musician or pseudo-musician would tell you otherwise.
Now back to my post ...
Sondek said he agreed with Jay that "cryo
doesn't make a difference so far as I can hear".
Then he said "they seem to present a lower overall noise floor,
thereby making small details in the music easier to discern".
These are contradictory statements.
DanL
Sounds Groovy Man.
my phono uses 6n1p, I remember yrs ago, I had a pair cryo-ed, and some without the treatment, one day, I was working on my phono, changing some caps and wires,etc, I had all tubes on the table, supposed to be in different tray, I left the work bench for few minutes for a glass of water, my 8 yrs old daughter went into my room, mixed all 6n1p up. of course, I tried to sort them out by their physical appearance, by listening, at the end, I gave up and never bother such type of treatment again.
not exactly answering your question but just my experience.
Hello all and thank those who provided feedback regarding their experience with 6N1P military tubes. I do value your opinions and experience.
music man bob
An African American audio, classical & jazz music lover. I love all great jazz, classical and folk music.
What I questioned, wasn't the cryo debate, which is never ending, but why no electrically equivalent subs allowed? Perhaps, a better tube educated mind can address this? If 6N1P subs were allowed, then I venture a bunch of thoughts would flood the thread. Well, maybe not a flood, but more than a trickle.
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