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In Reply to: RE: new psb imagine xb vs old celestion sl 6 series?? posted by ph5y on April 19, 2017 at 16:22:29
SL 6 w/ the copper tweeter?
did you find the original subs?
I'd go for the Celestions... but I'd get a bigger amp-
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Thank you for your reply! The 600s had copper tweeters, aluminum enclosures, and the matching double subs, while the 700s had the aluminum tweeter with an aluminum enclosure. What is for sale is a par of SL6 with copper tweeter and wood cabs and a pair of SL6si with aluminum tweeter and wood cabs. The SL6S was an SL6 with a brace added, retaining the copper tweeter. I am interested in the SL 6si which I used to like but never owned. It is a 25 year old design and could it be as good as a well-designed but inexpensive PSB 2-way? One argument in favor of the Celestion is that a number of classic British monitors from that era continue to have fans and to be built and marketed in versions similar to the originals e.g. the LS3/5a, LS3/6, LS5/9, and various Harbeths. Another argument is that in today's dollars the SL6si would sell for between a thousand and fifteen hundred dollars as against the PSB's $549. I have a chance to hear the PSB though not sure how much I will be able to tell. Thanks again.
It's never too late to turn back the clock.
For the best comparison, you have to compare them side by side and make sure they are level matched in terms of SPL. Relying on memory older than 5 minutes is suspect at best. Audiophiles balk at this advice thinking that their memory is infallible but that simply isn't true. Dr Floyd Toole has documented this in his extensive research into speakers. Do yourself the favor and listen to them side by side with levels matched.
Even side-by-side isn't perfect since there are still lots of variables you aren't controlling. But side-by-side is not possible when buying on ebay. I recall being impressed by an M&K subwoofer I heard in 1978 and I would bet my eye teeth it sounded deeper and tighter than the $150 Polk I heard at Best Buy the other day. Wanna take my bet? Of course there's no way to settle it and I don't even know what eye teeth are ...
It's never too late to turn back the clock.
You want me to bet that an M&K sub is better than a 150 Polk? I don't think Polk makes a sub. However those PSBs are a far cry from a Polk.I do understand your dilemma about not being able test side by side. Side by side testing is still FAR MORE accurate then relying on auditory memory.
Just keep in mind that replacing anything on these Celestions are almost impossible.
Also keep in mind that speaker technology and material designs have improved at a faster rate than amplifier technology. Kind of like buying a 25 year old TV if you get my point.
As I replied to Bare above, I just listened to the PSBs and a couple Focals and didn't think they were up to the standard of the Celestions as I recall them. But the listening setup was less than ideal and my negative verdict may be unfair.
As for your TV analogy, TVs today don't use picture tubes but speakers today use cones and domes as they did 50 years ago. btw 50 year old cars were much more comfortable to ride in and especially for making out and, if you were lucky, getting laid. (-;
It's never too late to turn back the clock.
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