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In Reply to: RE: Magico speakers... posted by timothywas1@comcast.net on January 08, 2017 at 09:26:45
I was given a tour of the Magico facility in late 2015. From the aluminum machining area, to assembly, testing and cosmetic finishing, I was very impressed. When I heard the final result through their S7 speakers in their very well-designed listening room, it was "game over": Those were the best-sounding free-standing speakers I've ever heard (although I've not heard the Q7), and they beat the pants off most professional built-in studio monitors. If I had the money, I would not hesitate to buy them.On a second point, regarding the owner, Alon Wolf. Some posters in this thread, and other places, have cast him in a bad light, personality-wise. That is an incorrect and unfair judgement.
It is almost universally common for people who are "driven" and "determined" and highly successful to have strong personalities and confidence in themselves. That's a big part of what makes them successful. Of all the highly successful people I've met, confidence and a strong personality are two of the most common traits. They tend to "cut to the chase" in professional conversation. This to be expected - they've already been down the road which many amateur and mid-level professionals want to rehash for the umpteenth time. They draw conclusions and make declarative statements because they know what they're talking about.
Obviously, everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses when dealing with people, especially on a personal or casual basis. Some might have a "Let's get a beer and pizza, how's the wife and kids" personality, while others don't. Not having an outgoing social warm fuzzy personality with people they don't know doesn't make them an asshole or a jerk. Pick any field - sports, entertainment, engineering, politics, business, academia, etc., and you'll find this to be true. As with all of us, some folks are better at showing their soft side than others.
I found Alon Wolf to be quite cordial and personable, even though it was 4:30 on a work day and he had better things to do than talk with me.
:)
Edits: 01/09/17Follow Ups:
eff that! there's ALSO "the customer is always right"
if i want to the kingsmen howling louie louie, that's my business! i'm the customer, and want to listen to music i like, not some bland lifeless hi-fi fodder, and sorry people, MOST SACD music sucks butt! if i was serious about buying speakers, not that i could afford magicos, but if i could, they'd be my first choice as i despise ports, i'd tell what's his face to eff off and walk out of his showroom.
i read a show report, probably in absolute sound, if not that, stereophile, where a reviewer put a CD in at a show and control freak came in and threw a tantrum. i have this tendency to really want to beat control freaks down 'til they STFU and the fact that what's his face is such a character, i would NOT buy his gear even if i had the money for the simple fact i wouldn't like where it's going. such people really need a reality check and a beat down for their insolence.
FORTUNATELY, if i ever win the lotto, raidho has learned that distortion isn't acceptable at $200k and now offers port plugs. now if only wilson would remember their watt puppy roots and offer port plugs too... they'd be worth consideration too.
one cannot learn ANYTHING about a speaker with unfamiliar music, especially if it's music they don't like. jazz is pure torture for me, and even in genres i like, i have little patience for vocals, so for me, a track with thumping bass drums and crisp cowbell is essential. no-one records hi-fi funky instrumentals sadly and there's so many annoying hi-fi snobs out there, including condescending reviewers, that are too white to appreciate dance music.
if i can't put "the tide is high" on a piece of gear, i ain't buying it. keep your schwag and stick that attitude up your butt!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Wow.
"if i want to the kingsmen howling louie louie, that's my business! i'm the customer"
"not some bland lifeless hi-fi fodder"
"MOST SACD music sucks butt!"
"not that i could afford magicos, but if i could, they'd be my first choice"
"i would NOT buy his gear even if i had the money"
"i'd tell what's his face to eff off and walk out of his showroom."
"i have little patience for vocals, so for me, a track with thumping bass drums and crisp cowbell is essential."
"that are too white to appreciate dance music."
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Went off your meds again?
i am with you on the cowbell. i was listening last night to el34 tubes that i own and a friend's set of kt77 tubes. the cowbell really came to life and kicked butt on the 77s. the 34s gave that holographic voice presentation. i liked both, but i say: "more cowbell".
Tom Collins
Perhaps Mr Wolf is just a timely misanthrope. However most people have two sides to they're character and it's good to here an alternative perspective.
Good to hear more positive listening impressions in regards to the Magicos. Not really what I perceived in my search.
Thanks for your post.
Regards,
/// Tim W. ///
Well, see, now I've learned something. I had to look up "misanthrope". :)I don't think Mr. Wolf fits the description, though. He's a musician, and his entire business is focussed on creating and building loudspeakers for people to enjoy listening to reproduced music. It'd be pretty hard to do those things if he had a disdain for people.
Here's a story: Back in '73 - '74, French trumpet virtuoso Pierre Thibaud was my trumpet instructor for a couple of semesters. I'm tellin' ya what, he didn't pull any punches. He told me flat out that my attacks were sloppy and not well-defined. He told me that I didn't have a good tone. Heck, sometimes, I'd come out of lessons thinking I couldn't even play the trumpet. On the other hand, he GAVE me two books of studies to work out of: The Balay and the Chavanne books, which I still have and cherish today. THAT, and his continuing to try to teach me, was the peek inside the man who, fundamentally, wanted to be helpful.
Ya see, some people are harder to get along with than others, but that doesn't make them a bad guy. "Consumed by their passion" is more appropriate. I know several people who fit that description, and can be a bit hard for some people to get along with, but they're still nice folks once they get to know you.
:)
Edits: 01/11/17
You can have strong opinions and not be an A-hole. I'll have to listen to the Magico's again. They didn't impress the first couple auditions.
p.s. If it wasn't already obvious AA has a strong political bias. And I'm not talking about their no-politics rule.
Well at a CES I sat down to listen to his creations--
he obviously didn't think I looked like the sort of dude that would buy his Speaker
--he just came me and said he wanted me to leave his room
WTF??? ----I'd only just sat down and did not say word to a anyone.
I,not wanting to argue just meekly left and continued down the hall.
Since then I have listened to his creations and frankly like him --
I find both thoroughly unlikeable
YVMV
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I would have gotten his face and told him off.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
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