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Hi, all,
I´ve been a happy Reynaud Twin Signature owner for almost 4 years but I´d like to have more clarity and details in the midrange and also more bass.
My room (living room) has good size: 18´x 15´. And behind my listening postion there´s no wall; it´s the dining, which is a little smaller than the living room.
I think a Spendor SP1/2R2 could be a good option, but I can not afford it. Another option would be Spendor SP2/3R2 but, in fact, if possible, I´d like to avoid a stand mount speaker because although I use a good Target soldered stand I keep thinking a stand is another factor to interfere in the final result. So it´d be better if I can go with a tower speaker.
As I listened to Spendor SA1 and it seemed terrific I thought a Spendor A5 could be a good option, as its mid and high drivers are the same as the SA1, and also its crossover mid/high point is near its smaller sister.
But A5 is not so big; in cubic feet it´s similar to Twin Signature. So, is there a big risk that this change becomes a side step or even a small step up?
Thanks,
João
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What are you using for amplification? Maybe an upgrade there would do the trick.
Or you could get the "Magic Stands" made for the speakers mentioned in the article below.
Tom Campbell comparing the Duets (now Bliss) to Twin Sigs:
"deeper bass and much more refined performance"
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue42/jm_reynaud_duets.htm
Hi,
I've been using a Blue Circle NSCS Int Amp, which has had very good responses to cable changes. I've been using Crystal Cable interconnect and power chord and also Neotech UPOCC power chord and things became considerably more clear and detailed.
Blue Circle gear is known for its clarity and I think because of the results I've been having I think this is a correct point of view. So I also think I can conclude the limit is on my Twin Sig.
Anyway, in fact, I'd like to experiment a wood stand. My mind insists that there's something out of place with a metal stand...
Thanks,
Joao
Not all wood stands are the same.
That's why until now I didn't make one without knowing which wood and design are good..
The only two I know of at first hand (at least lately) are the Skylans and the JMR Magic Stands. The Skylans tend to reinforce the upper bass; the MS's, using a Helmholtz Resonator to take out the bass hump around 80-100 Hertz, tend to flatten out the overall response. The result is that standmounted Reynauds tend to sound bassier and punchier on Skylans, smoother and clearer both in the bass and midrange on the MS. What's interesting is that taking out the bass hump tends to smooth out the midrange. In a direct A/B, the Duets sound heavier on the Skylans, lighter on the MS, though one can adjust to either character so that each begins to sound 'normal,' depending on your preferences. When we compared these two stands at the Montreal show a few years ago with what were then called Duets (now Blisses, same speaker), some liked what I considered the slightly thicker sound with the Skylans, some preferred what I heard as the more even overall response with the MS. These adjectives are mine and reflect my preferences; Noel would choose different ones, I'm sure!
Not all wooden (in these cases MDF) stands are alike!
Bob, do Skylans and MS use spikes to do their interface to the floor?
I never use the spikes with my Skylans. I can't really hear a difference and spikes make moving them any speaker stand around a PITA.
"Lock up when you're done and don't touch the piano."
-Greg House
Magic Stands don't, can't remember if Skylans do. Anybody out there know?
"Twins" have evolved a few steps since your Twin Sigs...
N/T
" Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination." -Michael McClure
Yes, it has but it has also led to better bass. In the case of the Bliss Silver, the improvement is even more dramatic and across the board. If they were my dollars, at this point, I would spend them on the Bliss Silver. For the extra $800, you'd be getting half again as much speaker.
Bob, would you say that Bliss Silver is at least twice as good as Twin Sig?
Yes. These speakers are much, much better than the originals. I auditioned a pair of Twin Sigs, and didn't like what I heard (lack of detail, clarity, and both ends).Bob told me to trust my ears and get speakers I did like. I did; I got some LS3/5As.Fast forward a few years to a few months ago when I was fortunate enough to hear the Bliss Silvers in a shop with a prospective buyer. The Silver Bliss has good distinct, tight bass for its size; a nice throaty, but still detailed, slightly romantic mid-range without being too colored, and a very clean, clear and open top end. The Twins were not as good in any of these departments. The Silver Blisses makes music enjoyable to listen to. If you are listening to bass-heavy electronic music, then get something like an ELAC; if you listen to music with a melody, these should work very well, unless you are totally into "realism".
"What did the Romans ever do for us?"
Edits: 02/05/11
Thanks, Frihed89,
I usually listen to brazilian music and Jazz and also some pop, etc.. Electronic music almost nothing..
My main question related to Bliss Silver is related to its size: Twin Sigs don't fill my room and their bass, although very well done, doesn't go as deep as I'd like. Bliss Silver will be much better in both these aspects? Positive-feedback Bliss review suggests that they're better than Twin Sigs but still not exactly enough for a bigger room. Bliss Silver will be better also in this respect? According to what Bob writes, if I understand correctly, Bliss Silver is probably good enough for me..
On the other side, reading WhatHiFi review of Spendor SP2/3R2 I see they say it's not so easy with stands... Problem with stands is exactly what I'd like to avoid..
Cheers,
Joao
To say Bliss Silvers are 'twice as good as Blisses' - something I've been moved to say on occasion out of excitement (even on my website) but now consider a meaningless exaggeration - is silly. They are far better in certain respects.
They do space better, both imaging and scale, coming closer to filling my 5,000 cubic foot room. Close. They are more articulate, thanks to the new woofer suspension technology now being introduced through most of the line, including even the Concordes, which I am currenty breaking in. The impression they make, coming directly from the very good Blisses, because it's so dramatic in these respects, can make you say things like 'these are twice as good.' They are dramatically better, far more than $800 better in my opinion. My newest dealer told me he couldn't believe a speaker could sound this good at its price. If I said that, I'd get banned. But yes, in the Reynaud line, they're good enough to cure upgradistis for quite a while, I should think. It behooves us to get off the audio escalator at some point.
Other thing, Bob: if I read correctly, you say that, in general terms, Reynaud speakers prefer copper wire. Is this also true with Bliss Silver, which is silver wired?
Yes. Again, that's my preference. You can brighten them up with silver, but to my ears silver throws their balance off. Same with Offrandes too. But I use AN silver on the Orfeos and Concordes.
Bob Neill would be the best one to answer, but from what I recall of reading reviews of successors to the Twins, I believe the answer is yes. You might google "Reynaud" Bliss (the new name of the Twins).
-The other Bob
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