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Hi,
I have Harbeth P3ES and looking for speaker stand. The problem is I can only get 24" or 29" high (from Lovan or Apollo). If I use 29" then the tweeter would slightly above my ears, if I use 24" then the tweeter would slightly below my ears.
Which is beter? Slighly above or below ear?
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I would get the lowest stand and tilt the speaker.
Thanks
Hey why not consider Skylan stands - Noel will custom them build them to tailer the stand for yur speaker - he even has some height adjustment options - they are one of the best stands you'll find for reasonable money $200.00Cdn and they are two post sand fillable high mass stands. I had them for my AN K's and my dealer loves the fact that they are not "rip-offs" like the stuff coming down the pike from many of the manufacturers.Having a stand at the correct height is extremely important - you'll find Noel is great to work with. I have been quite pleased with their Turntable base I'm currently using as well.
Keep the HP3 tweeter slightly above your ears - there's a considerable drop out when it gets below them. True of a lot of standmounts especially.
Just kidding.Usually the speaker's tweeter needs to be located
in a range from 6 inches higher, to 6 inches lower,
than your ears.If the tweeter is too bright, the speakers may sound better even lower or higher than that range (maybe with the enclosure aimed down somewhat if they are higher, or aimed up somewhat if they are lower).
Another variable is how close you sit to the speakers --
air is a good treble absorber so sitting 6 feet away leads to treble significantly brighter than 12 feet away.Experiment with a stack of cinder blocks or books before you decide
to buy stands. I think speaker stand height should be adjustable (but what do I know?).
a stand height of 28 inches.
In my case, giving my Totem Mites a little extra height (I tried 24"
stands) allowed the sound to have better clearance over a nearby
sofa and end table, resulting in more room filling sound and better
extension of high frequencies. Of course, I cannot give my room
"ideal" acoustics since someone insists on SEVERAL chairs and sofas
arranged to stimulate conversation amoung guests.
I recommend "Skylan's" thick 2 pillar-design stands - fill with
silica sand - as an economical solution to getting the very best from
mini-monitors. Also, blue tac seems to work well in ensuring a solid
coupling between speaker and stand.
Leaving room acoustics and obstacles aside - the 28" height should
place the tweeters "more or less" at ear height to project a great
stereo image as I believe your Harbeths to be, like my Mites, tiny speakers (thats tiny, not TINNY!
I am using some modified NHT Superzero "shoebox" size monitors at the moment. Initially, it was discovered that in order to get the drivers to hover where they should in my nearfield listening setup, I had to use stands somewhere in the vicinity of 30" tall. I tried this, but I obtained better results using 24" stands with a ceramic wedge between the speaker and the stands. This tilted the speakers back at the proper angle for my ears. I use four 1/2" squares of 1/8" thick sheet sorbothane per speaker to insulate them from the ceramic wedges. I was amazed at how much clearer, louder, more "room filling", and richer the sound became when the speakers were tilted back (versus flat and up high). Tilting them back obviously changed the overall reflection pattern in my room, all for the better. Most notably, the early first sound reflections from the floor were less audible with the tilted setup. There is no way to say exactly what position your speaker drivers must be in relation to your ears - you just have to listen. A typical starting point might be "tweeter at ear level". For me, the woofers must point at my ear level. Good luck.
Hello I am using 28" lovan stands with 3/4" birch blocks between them and my Spendor Sp 3/5se's. This works very well for me, The Lovan's are sturdy and can be filled with sand or what ever, the tweeters are a little above ear height when sitting.
Are your birch blocks small? or cover the full underside of your Spendors?
Use 24" and place cones under the speakers. This may even make an improvement.
According to “Harbeth” they recommend this speaker to be on stands at APPROXIMATE tweeter height. (One can only assume they mean the tweeter axis to be at APPROXIMATE ear level in the listening position)You already own the speakers – surely you can use some ingenuity and “test” weather you like the speakers slight above your ear level or slightly below it? (Heaven help you if one day you slouch in your chair)
Maybe you could even make a slight adjustment of your listing position?Believe me, there is no “best”, only what YOU like the best.
Lets us know how you go.
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Height will affect a number of things including bass response. I would suggest going with whatever height stand Harbeth recommend on the grounds that that will give the response in the room that they were aiming for, and then raising or lowering your seating height to suit your personal preference.
Any size you want:
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