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In Reply to: RE: You miss the point again! posted by gusser on September 22, 2015 at 08:45:07
Give me the names of 5 EEs who are trained in any human research beyond the useless crap that passes as scientific audio testing.Seriously, this DBT stuff is BAD science.
Anybody can send in $75 bucks and join alphabet soup societies. I am not impressed.
This does not substitute for actual research of the wider specialist literature.
I suspect that the EE world lags behind the cutting edge materials research by at least a decade, just as it lags theory of science by 100 years, and human science by 300 years.
EEs are too busy in school learning electronics and that is OK, but there is plenty of high-level thinking going on not taught in engineering school, especially at BA/B Sc. levels. And I don't know if serious consideration of the intricacies of scientific epistemology is taught in any engineering program anywhere.
EEs are for the most part, practical fix-it guys. Not genius scholars of advanced materials research and theories of knowledge. That's fine and how it should be.
Tell us about your training. Did you study any philosophy of science or human research, or was it all DC Circuits 1 and 2?
And look at how you Professional Society dudes are...If somebody wanted to publish an article on the sound of trick wire in the official journal, they would be marched out in front of the hotel where the annual meeting takes place and shot at dawn by a bunch of ornery drunk engineers.
Anthropology and archaeology is pretty much the same way. Professional gangs of thugs, protecting and regulating their turf. Change happens but it is much slower than it should be due to vested interests and intellectual inertia.Read the old 1960s classic by Kuhn, "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" for some insight into how institutional culture functions in science. this book is part of a well-rounded liberal arts education these days, but I'd bet they don't read it in most EE classes.
Read, learn, and get some fresh perspective on the problem, or at least deeply test your assumptions because you are stuck in a mind rut that does not necessarily conform with the current state of advanced thinking on the issues.
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Free your mind and your ass will follow -- Parliament/Funkadelic
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You say they are flawed and I agree even with my limited knowledge of human sciences.My point is the lack of any scientific data to support the notion of these wire follies.
P.S. SMPTE and SBE require at least some industry affiliation.
IEEE is much stricter. You can't buy your way in. Accredited credentials are reviewed prior to membership. Experience may be substituted for formal education but that still must be in the form of demonstrable accomplishments.
The more I read your posts I can see you are deeply educated in a obscure area of science. Nobody cares about this stuff day to day and I suspect you get laughed out of a room from time to time. Hence your broad dislike of professional societies made up of of peers.
An anthropologist arguing electrical engineering from a human sciences perspective?
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To be honest, I didn't suspect my topic would lead to the kind of debate, hehe
Regards,
Aleaxander.
Exactly my point about prediction in the human sciences! You can never know! ;op
Anyway, I am on your side, Aleaxander. Go have a nice glass of wine and listen to some music! ;op
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Free your mind and your ass will follow -- Parliament/Funkadelic
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