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In Reply to: RE: the dubious pleasures of resampling posted by steppe on May 30, 2009 at 13:21:27
yes I agree upsampling de-focuses the sound just like it does in the picture. but I recall what j gordon holt said when somebody told him that solid state devices sound more accurate than tubes to which he said then I like tubes better than accuracy. I go through periods where I like 16/44 better than 24/192. Its all an illusion.
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My schoolboy's limited understanding of the vastness of Hindu culture, I do wish I could take the time to truly understand, but the Hindu concept of ILLUSION is one of the most important concepts in coming to "understand" the world.
All is illusion and one makes of it what they will. This hobby is about illusions within an illusion, no one knows what is really TRUTH, it is illusive and its discovery will do no one any good, or harm for that matter, for it is meaningless. Especially in this context.
We try to find something that allows our consciousness to experience an event, an event we most likely did not attend in a hall we most likely have never entered, through microphones and recording equipment we will never own, blah, blah, blah.
I think steppe had a clever insight, but not clever enough. I know there is no "bad" intention on his part, it was interesting, just not very useful. DHT for ME's analogy was far more accurate, to my mind.
This is an interesting discussion but it leads nowhere. With such bare bones as RED BOOK we have to find a way to fill in the blanks and a best version of the "blank filler" will come. Just as with the LP, no one heard what we are able to hear now with LPs at the beginning of digital era, some amazing refinement occurred after what was the end of the LP's commercial life. Who knows what will happen with the CD, but all of us have lots of them and we would like to hear what is on them as best we can, as it was for those with large LP collections twenty years ago.
My fear is that the future, except for a few specialist exceptions, is moving towards even less information, not more. In ten years we might be pining for the CD to return. I would bet someone will find a way to upsample/extrapolate this information into something much better than we would have ever thought possible.
Bye,
Rick McInnis
Hello, Theo! You have found exactly the right word - de-focuses, it softens, washes away the edge. Unfortunately I cannot post a bigger image - or tiff image, where everything is much more explicite - it won't fit on the screen here. Also an old CRT display (which I cherish) is much better at such subtle differences. If we zoom to highier percentages the "96 kHz" right side picture looks awfully washed-out.
I personally prefer no resampling .
Serge.
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