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I'm running Volumio and understand that they have a subscription service that allows some form of integration. Is there any other way to use Qobuz with a Rpi (MoOde, etc.) that does not require a monthly subscription (aside from the cost of Qobuz)? I'd rather not have to use a UPnP configuration if at all possible. Ideally, I'd like to use the native Qobuz app. Any links you can provide me with would be appreciated.
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Been working great for a couple of years.
Will try the UPnP and DietPi/LMS suggestions. The idea of using the native Qobuz UI is appealing compared to Volumio.
You don't have a prayer getting DietPi and LMS to work well, unless you are a software engineer with Linux experience. -- So, if you want to try LMS, use PiCorePlayer it will work and there is help here.
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I used to use it with a Pi as a Roon endpoint. I'm familiar with both software engineering and Linux. Just was looking for something turn-key with tight integration.
I think Roon is much more 'User Friendly' with DietPi than LMS.
If you change your mind about UPnP mconnect works really well for me.
You can run the Qobuz app on any other device and use either Airplay or UPnP to stream to Volumio running on the RPi. You don't need to do anything else. Volumio is already configured for UPnP and Airplay and the Qobuz apps support it.
works with Audirvana but not direct from the QOBUZ plugin on my MacBook Air. It finds all of my Pis but won't play the Pi4/Volumio in my main system
However...
The dCS Network Bridge DOES play via DLNA, hooked to the same DAC, different input. But QOBUZ plugin reverts back to local after one track.
Go figure.
No big deal as the MOSAIC firmware in the NetWork Bridge does QOBUZ just fine.
> direct from the QOBUZ plugin... won't play the Pi4/Volumio
Hope it works for me as this was my first choice.
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This worked for me straight out of the box. And when you say "plugin" what do you mean? I run the Qobuz desktop app on my iMac. Volumio is running on the RPi. It all just works.
This certainly seems like to easiest route to take, and I can use the native Qobuz app. Thank you!
to get Audirvana from my Mac Mini to the RPi.
For the adventuresome, there is always LMS. run in the background on a computer somewhere in the same network as the Pi (or even on the Pi).
Logitechmediaserver (LMS) comes with a Qobuz plugin.
You can nicely use Qobuz with the LMS "Material Skin" controller plugin.
I'd suggest to use1. DietPi (64bit) on RPi4 or
2. piCorePlayer (64bit) on RPi4
Why DietPi as 1.?I do think that DietPi, with its Raspberry Pi OS as base-OS is the
much better choice for running a server.
Actually a plain Raspberry Pi OS (64bit-Beta) would be my first choice.
For most non-linux people it'll be much easier to start off with DietPi though.piCorePlayer in comparison is lagging developments.
And don't worry about the RPiOS 64-bit still being beta. The only reason why they keep it on beta is the lack of a 64-bit RPI advanced GPU driver.
You wouldn't see any impact/issues on a server installation.
For most of the tasks you'll find HowTos on the WEB.I am running my own LMS server also with RPiOS64 as base.
And I use one SSD as boot device and another SSD as data device.
Accomplishing something simple like that with piCorePlayer is gonna
be a challenge.
And just to mention it, pCP also lacks RPI eeprom handling and their kernels are meanwhile pretty outdated.Enjoy.
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I would not recommend the 'Diet Pi' approach for LMS to a Novice. It is too complex for the users asking for help here. Most users here have no desire to take this path. This is unlike the 'Menu' based install of PiCorePlayer. I have helped dozens of people here with PiCorePlayer(Over the Phone) and this would be a 'No Go' for all of them.
After the install of Diet Pi - here is a sample of what you do at first Boot of the Rpi:
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4. First logon on DietPi
The hostname of the system will be: DietPi.
You might change the name before the first boot within the configuration file dietpi.txt.
After the system has booted up, you can continue following the instructions on the screen, or connect via network:
If you have a keyboard and a monitor connected to your system you login via this console.
If you have a headless system without keyboard and monitor attached, you can use an SSH client like PuTTY to connect from a remote system. The SSH server Dropbear is installed and enabled by default on DietPi.
Most SBCs alternatively allow to connect a serial console via UART, which is by default enabled on DietPi as well.
A login prompt will appear. Use the initial credentials:
login: root
password: dietpi (resp. the one you set via dietpi.txt)
Click here if you want to connect via SSH (running a headless install)
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As I said.
There are very good and plenty of reasons to go the DietPi ( or Raspberry PI64 OS) path if you look for a solid server installation.
Even Abe managed to get DietPi going. ;)
However. I am not opposing pCP. I am promoting and still developing on it - as client. And I do it for years. To me it's - as mentioned - just the 2nd best choice as a server.
I am running RPiOS64 myself for quite some time now, as server and client. I'd never run pCP myself. I just promote it towards people with
very limited Linux skills or people who are afraid of typing/copy-pasting a couple commands into a terminal.
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I did this as a project this afternoon.But, it was a bit of a struggle for myself. My biggest challenge was the 7z - unzipping program. (Ha!) Had not used that one before.
It is running LMS a bit wounded however. I have no idea how to point it to my NAS for my Music Library. Also it seems to have a problem logging in to mysqueezebox.com I still have and use the Tunein Radio App over there. I did get it to play Qobuz however.
For myself, I don't think I'd see any advantages for using DietPi... Only disadvantages over using PiCorePlayer. So, I'll be running back to PcP.
god, I would hate to walk someone through this install over the phone!
Update: Unplugging the power from the Rpi did not Auto-Start LMS! I have no idea how to configure LMS via DietPi .... DietPi running LMS is a Serious 'No Go' for me.
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Sometimes I have a hard time following what you Pi users are trying to do.
If you want to use LMS, why wouldn't you install it on your NAS? And run Squeezelite on the Pi?
Look, it was only an experiment with DietPi...... So, I was running DietPi on a separate Pi and Squeezelite on my many others.I used to run LMS on my NAS, but the developers of PiCorePlayer prefer LMS to be run a RPi... So, for a few reasons (Future problems with Software Dependencies being one of them) About a year ago I switched LMS to run on a separate Pi. In my opinion this works much better.
I was not impressed with DietPi for quite a few reasons.
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I just ordered a new AV pre/pro for my living room system and it's all digital right to the output board, with digital volume control. So I think I'm going to jump on the RPi bandwagon for streaming playback and have been looking into the options lately.
Get a Rpi Model 4 and you can run it into a DAC with its USB Ouput for around $50.
Been running it for a few years with Roon Bridge.
less filling, more Pi?
regards,
Yes, less filling straight out of the box, and can be optimized further if desired. Easy peasy setup, even headless setup w/o Pi attached keyboard, monitor, or mouse. Just plug it into your network and SSH login for easy menu driven setup.
I think I'll get me some Pi ...
it should keep me out of trouble over the summer!
idle hands, devil's workshop, yadda, yadda, yadda etc.
regards,
"Just plug it into your network and SSH login for easy menu driven setup."90% of the people that frequent this forum don't even know what you said. I have maybe used SSH about a dozen times just setting some new piece of software up in my lifetime.
So 'easy peasy' for you.... It was not easy peasy for me at all. When I got into DietPi, the 'menu' was not that friendly at all. Are you talking about setting up Roon via Diet Pi, or Diet Pi itself? - I set it up to run LMS... Once I got LMS running, I did not have a clue how to point it to my NAS or Configure LMS further? -- I did not spend a lot of time with it, before I knew it was a 'nogo' for me.
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Well, I know that the DietPi menu system allows one to install a variety of software packages including several for audio. It also allows for optimizing some Pi settings like CPU speed, USB port power, watch dog timer, LED status indicators, etc. You can choose to tinker with these or just leave them alone.But, the only software package I install on my Pi is the free Roon Bridge which allows the Pi to work as a network streamer for Roon. As such, there is no setup at all in Roon Bridge. RAAT (Roon Advanced Audio Transport) takes care of "discovery" and everything else. Once Roon Bridge is installed there is no need to even know the IP address of the Pi as RAAT discovers it automagically. There is no additional setup required. The Pi running Roon Bridge just appears as an Audio Zone in Roon where it can be Enabled or Disabled. Magic!
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That's what I thought... Roon made the setup easy... No such Luck for LMS (Which is Free - Probably the reason).
Makes PiCorePlayer seem pretty easy for LMS compared to DietPi!
There are some advantages to polished paid-for software vs free! But for the OP, he's probably not looking to pay for software. Roon is not inexpensive, and PiCorePlayer might be the better choice for him - especially since you're offering free expert support ;-)
Actually I think Roon is pretty cheap, if you like it...
I paid $400 for my first year of Qobuz when I had it via Ireland, before it hit the states and they restructured their fees and made it pretty cheap.. Now only $150 a year or so.
I'm sure the Diet Pi has some advantages for a Server. I may try it myself down the road. The people asking for help however, would mostly just get frustrated, as they are only trying to stream music. I can get most of them running PcP in less than an Hour on the phone.
Abe did get it going, but don't forget Abe is one of most technically capable people on this forum.
LMS via PiCorePlayer
https://www.picoreplayer.org/
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