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In Reply to: RE: You are NOT alone, but impatience and posted by Ryelands on May 05, 2012 at 08:38:08
Please define it in the right context, otherwise nobody will know what it means either (including you).
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Please define it in the right context, otherwise nobody will know what it means either (including you).
In Microsoft Windows, resources are read-only data embedded in EXE, DLL, CPL or . . . MUI files . . . Windows has a set of predefined resource types [inc] cursor and animated cursor, icon, bitmap, dialog box, template, font, HTML document, string and message template and file version data.See? Not difficult, not even for scientists and engineers.
Tell us how it affects sound quality in non-voodoo terms
Edits: 05/05/12
This is Microsoft lingo, not standard computer science terminology. Of little use except to Microbrains.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
This is Microsoft lingo, not standard computer science terminology.
Microsoft being only a bit player in modern computing was, of course, why I was careful to use a cap "R" for Resources and wrote "in this context". As the OP made it clear that the context was Windows XP, my use of the term was perfectly legitimate.
Your being too lazy to look anything up before posting cheap remarks? Not so much.
Of little use except to Microbrains.
Gosh. Are scientists and engineers always this ungracious when they lose an argument?
Tell us how it affects sound quality in non-voodo terms
Yup, seems they are. Well, some of them. OK, OK, two of them.
In short and FWIW, my take on the "slimming" initiative is that a small, informal team has done something just a little bit special that hasn't been done before which might turn out to be a worthwhile contribution to PC audio.
That so-called professional "scientists and engineers" prefer noisily to dismiss its efforts rather than evaluate them properly let alone (so help me, the very idea, Well I'll be damned, whatever next, FFS, etc etc) lend some of their expertise is sad but not surprising.
You might forgive some of us who aren't particularly knowledgeable or interested in the peculiar terminology adopted by Microsoft for certain of their operating system "bling". Furthermore, since you talk in terms of winning and losing arguments, in the future you may wish to take more care with your capitalization. Not counting "Subject:" lines, your use of "resources" and "Resources" comes out approximately equal in this thread.
More to the point, you have not provided any explanation for why removing these software objects from certain files might affect sound quality. Without an explanation (theoretical, practical, or speculative) there is little value to others who know better than to wander into immense forests without a map.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
Hello, everybody.
I soon learned not even to attempt to enter arguments here, but just for the sake of information, I want to tell What removing the resources does.
First, apart from exe and dll files resources are also found in sys files, that are also DLLs, btw.
Second. If You open Your regedit. Well, it's a program, and go here:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Session Manager\KnownDLLs
You will see the nasty list of big dlls, that are mapped into memory from boot up and to the end of Your session.
Now most of these dlls and especially shell32, user32, gdi32, common controls, common dialogs... are not only extremely rich with those resources, but are the part of the user side of windows system activity, so whenever You even move the mouse cursor, all these dlls are active and tracking Your activity to "help" you.
Third. even if You are doing nothing, these nasty dlls are tracking Your doing nothing and are polling all system processes AND themselves to be ready to "help" you.
Below is the citation from Raymond Chen
The Windows feature informally
called ‘Known DLLs’ refers
to a list of DLLs (Dynamic
Link Libraries)
that are given special
treatment by the kernel’s module loader. ...
... Preloading DLLs
allows apps to start
faster, but at a price
of greater boot
time and decreased
memory
This is from the article from microsoft support center.
So he, who is not blind, knows now that memory and kernel (with our beloved kernel streaming) are affected by these dlls, and these dlls contain The biggest amount of resources. The same apples to debug information and resources in sys files.
The abovementioned resources are mapped into memory, and some of them are actually AVI videos. Just imagine now, that while You are playing music, Your system is always ready and willing to play you a silly avi that's already in the memory.
Serge.
This appears to be a bit of a hobby for those who think they 'can'.
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