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In Reply to: RE: Sanders Sound ESL: glorious in that one spot posted by DrChaos on September 14, 2020 at 15:06:16
I'm sure most of you know that Roger Sanders invented the curved electrostatic panel that Martin Logan uses. He thought, (and still does ) that the flat panel was/is better.I completely agree that they have a very narrow listening window, but inside that window...WOW!!!
Edits: 09/14/20Follow Ups:
I have read great things about these speakers from many sources. I would love to hear them. The narrow sweet spot doesn't bother me that much, since I usually listen alone. What does concern me (although based entirely on numbers, not listening) is that the crossover is around 300 Hz, meaning that a lot of the midrange is handled by the woofer, not the ELS unit. What does Fisher-Dieskau sound like, for example?
With the DSP crossover/correction in the new 10E, it's totally transparent.
I didn't notice any discontinuity between woofer & panel. And the woofer is a transmission line, not bass reflex which can boom more.
BTW the crossover frequency is 170 Hz according to a review.
https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/sanders-model-10e-hybrid-electrostatic-loudspeaker/
As I have said, it's the best I've ever heard on diversified classical. Heard it 2-3x at T.H.E. show and I always put it as my #1. Second was Revel Ultima Salon 2.
I heard the Sanders at two separate hi-fi shows in S. California, and at both shows Sanders imo had the best sound at the show. If I had the necessary $ in my pocket, I would have bought them on the spot! As a single listener, I don't mind a speaker with narrow dispersion. It mitigates room sound (reflections off the side walls and ceiling), a good thing.Is it just a coincidence that Bruce Thigpen chose 180Hz as the x/o point between the planar m/t drivers and the sealed 8" woofer in his Eminent Technology LFT-8b loudspeakers? ;-)
Edits: 09/16/20
Not sure about the crossover frequency. I had read a review of the 10B which mentioned 300, but perhaps the 10E is different. I think I also read that with the digital crossover, the user can choose it, but that Sanders still recommends 300.
Not disputing how great they sound. If my Stax setup fails and I still have any ears and/or money left, Sanders is surely what I would try.
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