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In Reply to: RE: We should be clear the 'MAGA' isn't about making America great posted by Rod M on March 18, 2023 at 08:28:59
Not that that's hard.
Dmitri Shostakovich
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Funny how English majors can't stand Trump and are in love with perpetual liar Bama. It's the syntax that gets them. A work related disease. Not that Drump isn't a lazy, lying, narcissistic piece of shit who only wants to be admired. At least he can point to a problem and has a courage or audacity to articulate it which most of neuters are unable to do afraid of their careers. You can't have a trained , neutered dog as a president.
The problem is he solved NONE of them and never followed through on his promises.
Trump said he would get out of the middle east.
Biden did it.Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall.
Biden got Mexico to pay for border security.Trump said he would lower drug prices. He didn't
Biden did.Trump said American business should leave China and move to the US.
Trump's clothing line is still being made in China (before, during and after his presidency - not only that he paid Xie over $200k in taxes -- Zero to the US.Trump said he would send those Mexicans back to Mexico
Obama sent 40% more illegals back to Mexico than did Trump in the same time period.Trump said he would create jobs
Biden created far more jobs (and not including the Covid bounce-back variety)Trump said he would eliminate the national debt.
Trump added 1/4 of the ENTIRE US DEBT in his 4 years in office - the worst of any president in US historyOnly the gullible morons fell for his yacking - he delivered on nothing. Made the country worse - much worse.
Bush W said he'd get Bin Laden - nope Obama/Biden/HRC did. They didn't babble through 50 tweets a day doing zilch - they got the job done and fixed the crappy economy left to them by the incompetent Republicans who left the country a total mess. Poor democrats always have to spend the first 3 years of their presidency fixing the mess the Republicans leave them.
Right-wing dimwits LOVE the illiterate tough-talking Cromagnon strong-man bullies who promise the world and deliver NOTHING. And the reason they love the tough-talking bullies is that they're little snowflakes, not man enough to say shit to someone in person without their guns. Bwahahaha
Edits: 03/21/23
Ironically Biden administration didn't change many of former administration positions did they? Even though they, the whole press (and you particularly ) were extensively yapping how bad and racists they were. They stuck with every effing shit and extended it fucking up everything on the road: China relations, Afghanistan, Border security, Submarine deal, and new Cold War in the Horizon
Also if Trump behaved like a drugged schizophreniac shaking hands with ghosts on life TV everybody would go ballistic but papa Joe just keep tripling over his feet and everything is fine.
PS.
your deleted post was in bad taste & low class for a gent you pretend to be. My fiance is an English Major hates Trump and is in perpetual love with Bamol. My two Polish wives married fat Americans with money. Pretty women alway will attract a fat American with money or skinny old Asian with money like my optologist friend whose Ukrainian bitch took off with $1mil. Bad taste is forgivable but low class in your case is not. Adios Amigo
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I saw some of the deleted posts you sent to me. I let deleted posts pass because people tend to get angry and then "take it back"I don't apologize for what I say because if I actually met some of the Trumpers on this board - I would do far worse to them in person. Probably why all the Trump nuts carry guns because they're too much of the pussy snowflake variety not to. But then I would never have a Trump slime as a friend.
Throughout history - US Foreign policy has largely been the same no matter who the president is. The Democrats also voted to fight Saddam in Iraq. They made the wrong choice. Only one politician voted no to invading Iraq - only one politician had the foresight to know that it would be worse and cost America trillions that would be better spent on America and the people.
Only ONE politician had the guts to stand up and do the right thing. But he's too smart and too good for America. (Note Biden and HRC voted for it).
The difference however is on domestic policy - and the Democrats are FAR FAR FAR better on that than Republicans.
Edits: 03/23/23
I'm not a Trumper and have never been one.I only defend people's democratic choice to have him as a president and I'm aware of a massive fraud of collusion between all sectors of media, business and administration to take him down.(Even though the old fucker so much craved their admiration and acceptance) Spectacle of elections included. Those gun wielding nutcases are a backbone of America and in every fucking American intellectual trumpeting his opposition to deplorables is imbedded the same kind of bloody, trigger happy redneck ready to send legions and burn whole countries.You can see this everyday on the forum. I cringe when I see a seemingly intelligent people repeating hypocritical nonsense on private forums just to fit into certain social category. Just because they live in enclaves removed from reality of 90% of regular folks. You ferociously criticized every single policy Trump enacted which Biden administration embraced and exponentially expanded. Every single one. Oh, and the war is raging again and US led coalition couldn't be happier to participate. The boys are back in town.
You couldn't pass on single physical /mental defect that this clown possessed yet you give an unchecked pass to a mumbling, walking corpse which for most part does not know where it is? You disparaged religion, marriage institution and conservative way of living but now you are a daddy, have a wife and a flicker of a joke at your expense throws you viscously off balance. I followed your posts because you happen to possess a light pen and entertaining way to present the topic and also because of Audio Note connection (with your slightly irritating fan boy shtick) Sayonara
Actually, I attacked Trump as a person. He is an abomination.
I attack the hypocrisy of the so-called "family values" types who all lined up to get behind a racist misogynistic bully who has zero family values. Going from Obama a wonderful family values president to a steaming shithole of a man in Trump just calls out the abject racism and deplorable kkkristians out there.
Biden was nobody's real choice to be president. They were never going to let a Bernie Sanders win because he's FOR the 85% of Americans who live in the country - scoff - fat fracking chance the elites wanted him.
Biden was merely the "anti-Trump" vote. He got a record of votes because people saw what a cluster-fuck of a fat-ass boor Trump was. They could have run a potato for president. What Biden is though is an experienced government bureaucrat - boring. But after being irritated daily by Trump's poop-tweeting a steady diet of lies at all hours - boring is a wonderful respite. I don't have to read some Trump policy that is cruel for the sake of cruel every day to appease little small-man syndrome pussies who always support strong-man Mussolini wannabe leaders because they can be "tough" on the back of their president.
You say things that are partially true because I think you think that only Republicans and Christians are Americans.
"Those gun wielding nutcases are a backbone of America."
Yes, but most of those gun nuts are KKKristian Trumpian Republicans. You should actually look at the kinds of people at the Trump rallies - if there was ever a reason to be Pro-abortion just look there. Jesus Christ those people should be sterilized!
As for violence - it solves problems. I am not your typical woke liberal on this - no one stopped Hitler with flower power. The HK Students didn't get China to back down with protests. Nor even semi-violent protests.
You get shit done with guillotines - notice how the French government responds to the people (is afraid of the people) because government remembers Marie Antoinette.
The problem with complaining about Biden is that I have seen him speak - other than his known speech impediment and a few gaffes he is cogent and his state of the union made all those Republican loons like MTG and Bobert look like complete idiots. The fact is he's not a great speaker - age and speech impediment issues aside he is still a billion times the speaker of that completely incoherent mess that Trump was.
So it's really laughable when anyone on the right makes fun of Biden after seeing Trump mangle the English language for 4 years. But again - Biden was an anti-Trump vote so it actually doesn't bother Biden voters if people call him Branden etc - I didn't vote for the guy so why would I care?
I disparage religion and marriage only to the point where someone wants to inflict it on me.
I know you can't understand this because you are religious but imagine if you can Islam took over the west and told you to live under Sharia Law or else you will be killed. You would not like that.
Well, this is not different from scientists/atheists who do not want to be told how to live OUR LIVES because your book tells you how to live yours. Richard Dawkins was a relative unknown until 9/11. He was so upset over it that he began getting on religion because those people so believed that flying the planes into the buildings would please Alla. These beliefs were instilled into them by religious texts and religious leaders that they truly believed they were acting Godly through killing and trying to control others. They will throw gays off buildings because of their "beliefs" never once thinking "gee what if I am wrong."
I am a freedom kind of person. If you want to smoke a plant that grows on this planet - be my guest - if it kills you - well we warned you. If you want to have sex with only one person your whole life - fine - if you want to have 4 women and everyone is an adult and can make an informed choice fine by me. Doesn't hurt anyone. If you're gay then great - more women left for me.
People have the right to change their minds - maybe you're a Sam Malone bagging women your whole life and you meet the right one and decide marriage is a good choice. Plenty of people are in open marriages too - a concept some geezers here may not get but it means that you can have sexual relations with women outside your marriage. I know couples like this. I know a married couple who are both into BDSM - they are each Dominant - they have subs to play with - to tie up and spank etc. It is their "turn-on." And out of all the couples I know, their marriage has lasted the longest and is still going!
Their marriage may make no sense to me - but it works for them. If people could stay the fuck out of other people's business and not be some morality police for others people would get along better. But nope - religious people always have to butt in and tell everyone to live EXACTLY the way they do. And then they try and create laws for everyone else to follow. They cause the problems and they cause the violence because I want to take their fat heads and smash them when they try to force 10-year-olds to carry a baby - those fucks should be lined up and shot - and those fucks are ALWAYS some holier than though Christian type (who usually gets caught diddling a little boy).
All these Religious weirdos against transgender people - but look who is always caught diddling little boys or caught in same sex scandals - always the Christian pastor or Catholic Priests - those are the people we need to worry about not drag queens. But hey - projection.
... It was clear Obama would be the Dems choice. Biden seemed at the time to have the better foreign policy insight. Obama proved naïve in that respect. But then Obama was, (tried to be), more progressive; Biden is hardcore Centrist. Pity Obama couldn't get much done on healthcare before the Republicans took over Congress.
Yes, in 2020 Biden was the "not Trump" candidate -- he will be again '24 if they both run. It would be convenient if Trump simply dropped dead (of natural causes of course). DeSantis et al. couldn't be any worse. (Who ever thought we'd miss Mit Romney?)
Democrats are sadly lacking in potential viable candidates. Like you said, RGA, Dems would never let poor old Bernie Sanders win; pretty much the same for Liz Warren, (no spring chicken herself). I haven't studied VP Kamala Harris to understand her policy position -- in any case she has all the charisma of a sweaty gym sock.
Dmitri Shostakovich
I am happy if Trump wins the Republican nomination because he's a loser and he'll lose again - nothing will get more democrats to the voting booth than Donald Trump running.
De Santis is just as horrible if not worse but people may not be following him as close so fewer democrats will turn up.
Democrats win if they show up because there are more liberals than nutbar religious conservatives and this is especially true with younger voters.
So as time passes the old racist Trump crazies will die (the sooner the better) and they'll be replaced by far more liberal 18-22-year-olds and their first vote.
But the Democrats seem to do a piss poor job at messaging and keep going down the track of identity politics which drives independents crazy.
AOC is a massive hit with her generation and younger and in her state, she completely annihilates the Republicans up against her.
I am sure she plays well in most liberal cities and she did more for Texas in crises than the losers Cruz (who took a vacation) and Abbott the do nothing, good governor. But I think they would need a photo shoot of AOC killing bad guys with an uzi to get some votes in Texas. She's on the young side but that has proven to be okay when looking abroad.
Basically, I want a good person who is pretty bright and who can listen to experts.
I never would have had a problem with John McCain or Mitt Romney or even Liz Cheney as president. I can disagree with them on various issues - but I believe they care about the country and would put the country over politics. Indeed, Cheney was a lock to win her seat but chose to end her political career to put the country over the party. I disagree with practically everything she is for but at least you can say she has integrity. To me this is the number one thing you should have as a leader.
I view anyone who voted for Trump (the second time - I cut people slack if they voted for him the first time and then voted against him the second) as someone who has no integrity.
Many Republicans thankfully switched their vote. Country over party.
In Canada, I have voted Conservative, Green, Liberal, and NDP. If the Prime Minister acts badly I call him out whether I voted for him or not. They are our employees - not kings or rock stars. I mean the mere fact that a President holds rallies and sells hats and T-Shirts and digital photos of himself - I mean that says it all but just look at how many on this forum still would vote for him. It's bonkers.
I hope at least a few thinking people get to see it.
Looking from the outside helps be objective.Make America Great Again implies that it was great in the past. But when in the past?
Certainly, before Reagan messed up the country. But how far back? When blacks were slaves? Certainly many MAGA voters liked it better when blacks sat at the back of the bus and were not allowed to drink from the same water fountain.
Okay, Republican Trump fans WHICH decade are you talking about?
The 1960s and 1970s when the corporate tax rate was 80-90% when a man could work - own a house a car outright while his wife stayed home and looked after the kids and Unions were at their strongest peak?
But you had Vietnam and flower power and hippies and drugs. Still, it seemed pretty good economically in terms of good jobs and 1 income household earner and rich people paying plenty of taxes. But you guys hate Unions. So I dunno - is this the 20 year span when it was great? Race volatility, president getting killed. Hmm. Not so great.
Was it during FDR's run? He was the most popular president in history often regarded as the first or second-best President. So popular he had three terms and they had to change the rules to make it 2 maximum - if he lived he would have won a 4th or maybe more. But Republicans can't mean his era because FDR was a Democratic Socialist (same as Bernie Sanders and AOC). Gee, maybe the greatest period in US history under a democratic socialist!! LOL, So you will rule him out on that alone amiright?
Surely you don't mean the 1980s when all the jobs disappeared, and everyone needed dual income - the racist war on drugs that didn't work and created even more drugs entering the country and increases in poverty. Union busting meant all the good paying jobs disappeared and the offload to jobs in China. That was Nixon and Reagan who did that and now you MAGA people whine about Chinese goods taking over. Your guys did that so why are you complaining now? The shithole you got is the shithole Republicans made.
The 1990s? - under Clinton - he balanced the books at least.
2000s? adding trillions to the debt - war against the wrong person - world embarrassment under the drunkard W Bush? LOL - c'mon - it wasn't great.
I am guessing they mean the 1950s because this is the "square" generation under Dwight D. Eisenhower who would be a democrat if he were alive today. Eisenhower was a war hero and sadly America went from that to a Bone Spurs thin-skinned crybaby draft-dodging coward. Perhaps Americans didn't know that Trumpy just pays doctors off to pretend he had bone spurs - seems not to affect his golf game lugging his 320lb fat ass around the golf course?
I love this nonsense about "you don't live here so you don't know" BS.
I'd love to see the MAGA nuts (or Trump) take a US Citizen test. Bwahahahahaha.
Edits: 03/20/23
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