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I feel like this post is probably "White Knighting" for Rogan, something I am loathe to do, but in light of the organized smear campaign, and how quickly some Inmates have adopted an overall negative point of view towards the guy, I'm going to try and shed some light on the podcast and a little on Rogan himself.
Rogan started the podcast over a decade ago as a goof. He would sit with comedian friends, smoke some pot, shoot the shit, and share it with a small group of fans. Mostly laughs but eventually more interesting, long form conversations. The generally good natured and humorous mood of the early podcasts attracted more and more listeners, and eventually some more famous folks began to appear as "guests" and the podcast gained momentum.
Some 12 years later, Rogan has now recorded just under 2000 podcasts. TWO THOUSAND...and nearly 5000 hours of conversations with the widest variety of people imaginable. Some episodes are goofy (Sasquatch), some are about health/fitness and some are just unscripted conversations with interesting and/or brilliant people.
A very brief list of some of the more recognizable names that have appeared on the podcast...
Anthony Bourdain
Lance Armstrong
Chris Hadfield (Canadian Astronaut - commander of the International Space Station in 2013)
Dr. Sanjay Gupta
Bernie Sanders (Rogan expressed his support for Bernie on the podcast more than once)
Bill Maher
Brian Cox
Neil DeGrasse Tyson
Edward Snowden (yes that Ed Snowden)
Elon Musk
Ever wonder what makes a guy like Elon Musk tick? How about two different 3 hour conversations? Including one where Rogan and Musk smoke some pot and continue laughing and conversing. The media grabbed on to this and questioned Musk's leadership abilities and mental fitness!
So now after 2000 episodes with hundreds of guests, Rogan is being crucified in the traditional media for a few comments and two recent guests. He is now a "dangerous source of misinformation". A few famous people pile on, and the average person, who has had no previous exposure, assumes that Rogan is a meathead conspiracy theorist. And Rogan doesn't mince words or pander to the politically correct, so some controversy is inevitable.
I'm quite certain the fact that Rogan has many more listeners / watchers than ANY of the traditional media outlets has got their Jimmies rustled, and they'd like to see him "cancelled".
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and still don't.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...and yet, you took time out of your busy day to post in this thread. Thanks so much for your input.
You're welcome!
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
It's so infrequent one witnesses a civil exchange these days.
Well done.
I've only heard a few clips from his show, including the one with Gupta. Never heard of him before the Young thing. Watching some of the Gupta interview didn't serve as an inducement to watch more of Rogan.Don't see what the big deal is. Apparently he does much better than any/all cable news/opinion shows, but there are around 209 million adults in the U.S. Less than 5% of them watch Rogan and if some percentage of Rogan's audience is from outside the U.S. obviously that'd mean even less American adults watch him. I realize that translates to a lotta money for Spotify and Rogan but beyond that who cares? Young did him a big favor.
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The two problems I had with it were a) it was too long, and b) he claimed to believe in Bigfoot.
Guy believes in Bigfoot, I ain't about to spend two hours trying to take him seriously.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
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...confessed on his death bed that the film was faked.
Besides, is there a square fucking inch of the US that hasn't been trodden upon by somebody? The idea that an entire species of humanoids, bigger than we are and covered with hair, could exist without one hunter shooting one by accident, or one example getting flattened by an 18-wheeler along one of our Interstates...totally illogical.
And there should be some kind of award for the number of times I used the word "one" in a single post.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
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How the hell would you know. Can people admit "I don't know".
The probability is not zero.
There is actually considerable evidence that some kind of large primate is walking around in the woods.
There is no way for me to know.
For some people this is the burning question that inspires them. Fulfill your destiny!
I thought it was like a joke club or something. Those boys aren't fooling around.
They have it all figured out. Mostly. Of course the conspiracy involves the CIA.
I think the moon landing was faked and we have robots on the dark side of the moon 3D printing a moon base.
...it's up to the bigfoot believers to supply proof. No different than god believers or folks who are 100% certain that UFOs are piloted by aliens from outer space.
There is zero evidence that a "large primate" is stalking American forests. None.
Rogan isn't stupid, which makes it all the more alarming that believes in fairy tales.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
When I was in high school, one of the kids father quit his engineering job on space projects to devote his life to search for big foot. His kid was very upset, not wanting to move was the only reason, so I heard.Big foot was a big fad at the time, the movie footage was out, it was a topic of speculation. I was sure the guy was nuts, a thought probably shared by his despairing son.
Now I am not so sure. I occasionally see the guy on TV , probably his son by now, whenever anyone needs a bigfoot expert, and he has what appearers to be a thriving roadside business , selling Bigfoot stuff all over the world in a setting as close to paradise as one might wish.
Thinking further as I write this, I was working with a teenaged mind, and this guy had fully formed frontal lobes, and was a rocket engineer to boot. I missed the fatherhood angle completely, fascinated by the crazy. The town he left had no community, the howdy neighbor level of friendliness, so a child is better raised elsewhere, and I didn't even know the kid or his needs. I was pals with guys who lived in his housing tract.
it could be that he decided to skip learning anything about hunting , even though he was an educated man. And struck out on a path that appeared to me to be foolish, but what better way to understand the language than to walk the path of a fool.
If you are going to that kind of environment , you have to have a means of support. If the plan is to monetize a Bigfoot hunt, a good salesman will want to know his customers , and the guy has studied that perspective in his deliberate ignorance.
Or it could be mental illness and the guy just needed to grab a hairbrush and go hunting. And was protected for good.
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Any relationship to the Jimi Hendrix Experience?
Only problem with your traditional media conspiracy theory is if it weren't for the media's coverage of the story most people would never have heard of the guy.
Sounds more like his own publicity ploy to me. Maybe right now he and Neil Young are out in the barn smoking big cigars.
vs. "mainstream". It seems he IS "mainstream" or becoming so quickly. That certainly had to be Spotify's goal or why pay him 100mil? It'd be foolish to pay an underground/alternative media washed up comedian $100mil, right?
I kind of keep up with who Rogan has on his show even though I've never listened to one. I'll search out what Elon Musk has to say, for example. I knew of Rogan as a comedian and tried to catch his appearances on comedy central. He lost me when he did fear factor and associated himself with MMA. To me, it appears that he got into human growth hormones/steroids, plus, I don't like MMA (although I am a long-time boxing fan). My son's a big fan of his and MMA, though. My son doesn't mind when I say, "Rogan's a meathead" because he is a meathead with the gift of gab minus the "eloquence".
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Maybe - as long as you can pull that 10% figure out of your ass, jdaniel! ;-)
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again...go away.
I feel that all these inmates shooting their mouths off about what a "danger" he is haven't watched or listened to so much as one episode of his shows. They're getting their information filtered, as usual, through billionaire, big-pharma-friendly MSM.
war zones the reporters run the very real possibility of being targeted for death--- I prefer loudmouths on Youtube, just like you.
Joe Rogan: be specific in what you think is claimed he said that he did not. And no, outside of you, few give a damn what his videos say. Find some quotes and have at it.
YOU'RE the one who's claiming that Rogan made all these statements which "killed thousands". So what statements are these? The onus is on YOU to prove it. But you CAN'T prove it, because you don't listen to the broadcasts in the first place. LOL - I'm not going to do your work for you!
And, BTW, your lame, evil Guardian article link is dealt with below.
"Joe Rogan: be specific in what you think is claimed he said that he did not. And no, outside of you, few give a damn what his videos say. Find some quotes and have at it."
You claimed: "He said incendiary things and speech has consequences."
There you go. Back it up loud mouth.
I have watched a couple when guests were discussing topics I was interested in. I thought they were well done. Rogan asked good questions and was non confrontive.
Not a supporter of his anti vax stance.
I could never see his heart and I still haven't figured out how someone could switch from Bernie to Trump. After watching him interview important figures I came to respect Joe greatly. What I see him doing is trying to figure out what question his guest would most like to avoid. Then He asks and doesn't take any BS answers. He is brutal.
I have only seen several of his interviews but each one was memorable. I saw Elon Musk, Alex Jones, Dr's Gupta, Malone, McCullough, and a top physicist on simulation theory.
Being the biggest he does attract the biggest.
You people complaining about Joe have no idea what you are talking about. Joe does not give advice. He's pretty careful about that. Some of his guest committed thought crimes and left the stage. Now people want to "get" someone like a fucking witch hunt.
This rabid anti free speech bubble had better pop or we're all doomed. This whole mess is a good example of how to learn the legacy media is a bunch of lying frauds.
"This rabid anti free speech bubble had better pop or we're all doomed."
Agreed - It's 2022 and some crazies in the US are still trying to ban books. Some people are truly backward thinking.
At least in this Spotify thing - no one is trying to ban anyone. A singer is exercising his free speech because he doesn't want to be associated in any way with a podcaster. So he exercises his free speech and tells Spotify it's him or me, not both. Spotify exercises its free choice by keeping Rogen.
The rest of the world exercises our free choice to side with Spotify or Neil Young.
Free speech everywhere.
Except in some backward places where they don't let you teach history by shutting down free speech and choice of what to read. A nude mouse - lol - talk about some darkly twisted sexually repressed dimbulbs in some of those States. It's very Communist China!
. . . and some people are too brainwashed to see it.
Has the terminology changed, and if so, why? Or, are "legacy" and "mainstream" the same/interchangeable?
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Forgetful much?
Yeah, and these educationally underachieving and no real profession motormouths are giving the straight story on their podcasts and Fox News shows. Ummmm Hmmmmh!
Once a goof, always a goof. Rogan and that motormouth Hannity are a public menace.
"Oh, but he's such a connected, nice guy!"
He's also a dangerous whacko. Like Kyrie Erving, Aaron Rogers: using their pulpit as celebrities to contradict doctors and scientists to fulfill their ego need.
That article you linked to is a veritable cavalcade of misinformation and missing context. OTOH, the Fauci policies trumpeted by the billionaire MSM HAVE killed thousands, in particular, his advice to avoid wearing masks at the beginning of the pandemic. ("People shouldn't be wearing masks.") Moreover, the exclusionary emphasis on vaccinations as the sole bulwark against the virus (as opposed to other types of preventive measures and treatments, including Vitamin D, Vitamin K, zinc - not to mention Ivermectin, as the statistics in Africa make clear) have no doubt killed thousands more. (BTW, I guess The Guardian didn't think to check those stats from Africa - LOL!)
But no - Fauci, via his MSM supported pronouncements, is the Science God to you guys, just because he opposed Trump in a few instances. (That means he's on the GOOD team!) Trump said Covid might be a lab leak - Fauci said no, it wasn't a lab leak. And you could even get kicked off some social media for saying it was a lab leak. But guess what the prevailing opinion is now?
What about gain of function research? I suspect you'd rather not go there.
Getting back to this typical Guardian piece of trash you linked to: "Separate research on 73,197 UK adults who were admitted to hospital [sic] during the pandemic's first wave found that 27% of the 19- to 29-year-olds suffered damage to their kidneys, lungs or other organs as a result of Covid-19, while 13% left hospital [sic] with a reduced ability to care for themselves."
Where to begin with the sheer evil of this reporting??? The Guardian flings out the 73,197 number (i.e., ALL the UK adults who were admitted "to hospital" - the Brits are so quaint sometimes!). Then, in a clumsy attempt to pull a fast one on her readers, the Guardian writer says that 27% of the 19-29 age group suffered some kind of organ damage from Covid. 27% of what? The only number she provides is 73,197, the total of ALL adults, not just the 19- to 29-year-olds. IOW, you're supposed to think that 19,763 19- to 29-year-olds had this kind of organ damage in that time period. But we know that the number of 19- to 29-year olds admitted "to hospital" was only a tiny fraction of the 73,197 total, and therefore, the 27% of this tiny fraction is more infinitesimal still. As I say, this is truly EVIL reporting.
But moving on, notice that the Guardian's "science correspondent" then whips up a fear-mongering feast: ". . . suffered damage to their kidneys, lungs or other organs as a result of Covid-19, while 13% left hospital [sic] with a reduced ability to care for themselves". Out of all the possible types of damage, only kidney damage and lung damage are mentioned. So what's the actual percentage of kidney damage? Not high enough by itself for shock value? How long did these various types of organ damage last? IOW, were they temporary or permanent? Same with the "reduced ability" claim - temporary or permanent? This type of grade-school-level writing is evidently just what the Guardian wants from its staff. (BTW, I notice that they've still got Russia-gate-conspiracy-theory promoter, Luke Harding, on their staff - you know, the guy who fled the interview with Aaron Mate?)
I guess you'd rather trust a couple of musicians than the credentialed doctors and scientists Rogan has had on his show. In addition, I'm guessing that the whole range of Covid statistics (certainly the death statistics) which the Guardian and other MSM sources are using is bogus. . .
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You know, he COULD have leveled with us and told the truth that there weren't enough masks, rather than lying that masks were bad. . .
NAH!
You could also argue that anybody who would take Joe Rogan's medical advice is too stupid to live - deep gene pool cleaning, as it were.
Nt.
Mark in NC
"The thought that life could be better is woven indelibly into our hearts and our brains" -Paul Simon
a "personal choice" one.
This is not about freedom of speech. This is about freedom.
persecuted nobody. He said incendiary things and speech has consequences. No one will stop him from repeating the same crap--- but no one has a responsibility to help him spread it, either. Would you take away the freedom of a platform owner? Public vs private speech.
What? Incendiary? Joe Rogan?
Can you expand that?
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