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I recently installed solar on my home. Payback will be about 5.5 years. Thanks to new proposed legislation, I will be paying $576 extra per year, my net metering reimbursement will diminish. At the end of the article there was mention to request help from our governor Newsom. The next president of the USA.
Here is the info ,,,"Rooftop solar advocates want the governor to exert his influence over the Public Utilities Commission and compel the agency to keep net metering largely unchanged. But they might find themselves disappointed. Newsom spokesperson Erin Mellon told me the governor "does not direct independent boards or individuals on how to handle any issues that are in front of them."
Guess who Newsom was meeting at the French Laundry restaurant when he was restricting others from gathering during the Covid height. He was meeting with a Lobbyist who represents PGE Pacific Gas and Electric , Newsom helped minimize their liablilty for the enourmous fires in calif caused by the poor maintenance of their power poles.....
You cant get any help from Newsom unless you are a lobbyist...
Lets see if trend setting California is able to bring more of its great ideas to the rest of the country....
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Our solar system has paid for itself many times over after about 10 years. Since we upgraded to another 18 panels, we been just about even with excess production in the summer offsetting electric bills in the winter. The huge difference is that with Net Metering 1.0, I got the lowest tier rate as a credit on the bill and had a minimal fee of $10.35 to be a customer.
The new customer price for solar users will be $8/kWp or $96/mo, a difference of $1,001 per year versus the current $10.35 or $124.20/year.
Even though I give more power than we use, the new rate for excess in a month is a wholesale rate or 5 cents instead of the current lowest tier price of 29 cents. In the summer, my extra 500kWh/month gives me a credit of $145. The new rate would be 5 cents or $25, a loss of $120 that I could offset in the winter bill, that's an 82.7% gift to the utility. Last year, I gave SDG&E 3,841 kWh in about 8 months, now I'll lose about $922 that I would have used to offset bills over the winter. Net, net, instead of a small bill at the end of the year, my cost would be about $2,000 a year to give SDG&E power.
The ROI on our system was about 4 to 5 years. New 4.2 kWp systems will cost roughly $13-15K without batteries. They expect that the ROI will go up to 10 years or more. The minimum charge to be a customer will go up to about $400/year and the offsets earn you a nickel, but will cost you 29 cents or more when the sun goes down because they're pricing on time of use with 4PM-9PM being the peak rate.
A loophole might be that you'll be allowed to add panels up to 150% of your usage. Previously, it had to do with the power panel. A 200amp panel could take up to about 12.6kWp. It's a silly spec because it doesn't really mean anything as far as I've been able to find out. Maybe someone knows, we had to downgrade the breaker to get that much which makes no sense to me.
The monopoly utilities just want more profits and handouts for burning down forests and paying investors dividends.
-Rod
All this deregulation was supposed to be a boon to consumers, but it looks like all it did was let the dogs off their leashes.
If you have the time, look into the Hunt family, deregulation in Texas, San Diego Gas & Electric, and Enron. It will curl your toes at the level of corruption, greed and down right scumbaggery. It's a very slimy story.
The SINGLE most important characteristic of ANY politician is to STAY BOUGHT. Nobody invests in a horse that can go its own way with little or no notice. That's how riders get hurt.
Newsome has been buddies with the Power Industry for a long time......Even as far back as Governor Brown....the relationship was cozy.
So I encourage Newsome to SCREW EVERYONE and just get on with making whatever excuses his hack writing staff comes up with THIS time. The sooner the CA consumer gets the next screwing, the better. Greed Is Good! And don't let anyone tell you any different.
Me? I'd pass a LAW banning executive bonus compensation for public utilities. Since it is PUBLIC information, they have to bury it some to make it more difficult to extract. But here's the LINK.
Too much is never enough
liberals are there to tax it!
That way they can pay for *free* everything! ;)
"At the end of the article there was mention to request help from our governor Newsom. The next president of the USA."
It might happen with a rigged electoral system in place.
Leave now before "President Newsom" decides to build a wall around CA to keep everyone from fleeing to TX or FLA.
Dems would tax the nails used to hang Christ from the cross if they could.
Ordinary taxpayers don't stand a chance!
DT667
Oddly enough, CA is still the #1 destination for anyone making over $250K/yr.
"Oddly enough, CA is still the #1 destination for anyone making over $250K/yr."
Only the uber wealthy can afford to live in CA now thanks to GN.
Or illegal immigrants getting a handout from the US taxpayers.
A great indicator that "progressive taxes and social reform" is working so well for them.
We can only hope that "Gavin the Great" can become POTUS in 2024. Yeah!
DT667
from the article....While Newsom grappled with the bankruptcy of PG&E, the largest investor-owned utility in California, Axiom made $220,000 to lobby him and the Legislature on behalf of a court-appointed panel of the company's creditors.
...but I see it happening, to varying degrees nationwide, nonetheless.
We are under a global initiative to adopt "alternate" energy and EVs, but the "incentives" are being progressively reduced. I'm not sure of the objectives behind these "tactics". Are we "forcing" people this direction, with the threat of "do it now (or by whatever date), or you'll never be able to afford it"? Or are the politicians just so deeply embedded in the pockets of the fossil-fuels industry, utilities, auto-manufactures, and unions? Are we simply moving from "the carrot to the stick"? Instead of "rewarding" people if you do, are we moving-on to the "punishment" phase if you don't?
I installed a solar-array on my new building a little over a year ago, and bought an EV this past year. I bought the EV used, so I didn't get a LOT of incentives, but I did get "something" from my State, and the PO had gotten a TON of incentives--so he didn't mind so much selling it to me cheap.
It just seems to be going a bit "awry".
"So I talk to the night, I head for the light, try and hold it on the road. Thank God for the man who put
the white lines on the highway"--a very dear friend for decades Michael Stanley (Gee)--RIP
and rooftop solar is a threat to the utilities. And TOO real to be left to a bunch of shmucks with roofs.
Utility companies see a risk of being just a transmission system with 50% of all electricity being produced by people (or companies) with roofs and they don't like that future because they can't control (and profit from) production.
50% of all electricity is consumed in the day time when the sun is out. Largest w/w consumer of electricity refrigeration/air conditioning (plus the odd concrete plant which runs 24/7 and not counting Crypto mining, also 24/7). That means rooftop could take over 50% of all production, with power companies only supplying electricity from plants during cloud cover and the dark of night.
Not a great future, but if you have the $$$ to buy the state politicians, you can change the rules to suit yourself and THAT's what's happening.
Oh, and you get the environmentalists on your side by showing that BIG, cash rich utilities building out solar in the desert is a FASTER way to grow sustainable energy than doing it a roof at a time with only those having a bit of cash being able to play the solar game.
Lucky to be in sunny New Mexico where we just blocked the sale of our main utility to an international conglomerate. But even that won't last because they changed the way we appoint our Public Utility Commission to 'appointed by the Gov.' instead of elected. Just TOO MUCH MONEY at stake to be left to the voters.
whether it's needed or not (it's surplus to their own generation). In other words, they are subsidizing the roof crowd. At some point, it's not sustainable for them, they pushed back.
I'd argue it's a national interest issue and that we need federal rules. As we've seen from Covid, letting each state go its own way is a disaster.
I shy away from binary thinking on this issue, i.e. solar roof good, energy company bad, or vice-versa.
"As we've seen from Covid, letting each state go its own way is a disaster."I have said that since Day 1, and you were ALWAYS in opposition--all about "States' rights". Why the sudden change of heart?
"So I talk to the night, I head for the light, try and hold it on the road. Thank God for the man who put
the white lines on the highway"--a very dear friend for decades Michael Stanley (Gee)--RIP
Edits: 01/21/22
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Our experience in AZ is that we were grandfathered in for 20 years. Unfortunately that was about 14 years ago. Now I am splitting off office, garage and pool to standalone solar with lithium battery. If I owned a Tesla I would have used its battery.
This is tangential, but I ran into an interesting problem, I'm using grid tie inverters so I have a need for a backfeed detector. I thought that I would have been able to easily buy one and you can't. So I'm building one instead, using Allegro ACS758's, which I am hoping will be fast enough.
They don't wan't folks to put solar panels on their roofs. Cuts into profits.
And hell yeah, they've got politicians in their pockets. Money equals speech sez the US Supreme Court.
If Crassus were alive today, he'd claim that a man isn't truly wealthy until he owns his own senator, and maybe a House committee chairman or two.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
Edits: 01/21/22
It's the degree that's important.
Take Manchin ("please, take him!"), he comes from a coal state, he's got a lot of coal stocks, he's anti-alternative energy. He'd be a saint to be otherwise. What's amazing is that the coal miners vote for him, seeing as Joe's in the pockets of their overlords.
...very aware of that--I'm not that altruistic/naive/stupid--seen it in action. Hence, my "brief" career in the private sector.
I did some consulting work for a chemical/pharmaceutical company owned by an oil company--the "old-boys" from the oil side still believed that "lobbying" meant going office to office on Capitol Hill with briefcases full of cash.
Another "Big-Ag" company that I worked with was in the middle of a big "innovative" (and highly-endorsed) bio-fuels project--while half their Board was being indicted by the Feds for "price-fixing" on another front.
Ah--the 80's... Reagan, cocaine, money...
"So I talk to the night, I head for the light, try and hold it on the road. Thank God for the man who put
the white lines on the highway"--a very dear friend for decades Michael Stanley (Gee)--RIP
Was that by chance ADM? Price fixer to the world?
YES--and I'll only confirm that because my confidentiality agreement expired years ago. They set-up production of lysine and sold it for less than anyone could produce it (at a loss). Once they controlled the market, it was time for a "sit-down" with their competitors to determine global pricing.
"So I talk to the night, I head for the light, try and hold it on the road. Thank God for the man who put
the white lines on the highway"--a very dear friend for decades Michael Stanley (Gee)--RIP
My lovely bride grew up in Decatur, IL. She went to school with some of the kids of those involved.
It was quite the story, and not sure even today we know the full truth.
Her dad was a life long employee of A.E. Staley
When Newt Gingrich was Speaker, he pushed through drastic cuts in funding for Congressional staffs, and that money has never been restored.
According to one article I read, when the 2017 tax cut was being formulated--it never was debated in the Senate--there were something like 6,000 lobbyists working on 250 House staffers.
Anybody who runs for office should have to divest and should be prohibited from investing while in office. Instead of term limits, there should be a waiting period of not less than 10 years before any retired Congressman can go to work as a lobbyist.
The same should apply to non civil-service workers in the Executive Branch. Too many of these assholes want high paying jobs working for the corporations they're supposed to be regulating.
If limiting campaign contributions is un-Constitutional, then greed needs to be attacked via other means.
Of course, this is all pure fantasy.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
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