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In Reply to: RE: Indeed, HC workers have had to abide mandatory immunizations for years.... posted by RV817 on January 15, 2022 at 15:39:31
" In situations when there is good scientific reason to believe that a vaccine is safe and is likely to prevent disease, the FDA may authorize its use through an Emergency Use Authorization (EAU) even if definitive proof of the efficacy of the vaccine is not known, especially for diseases that cause high mortality. "
"After a vaccine is approved and in widespread use, it is critically important to continue to monitor vaccine safety. Some very rare side effects may only be detectable when large numbers of people have been vaccinated."
Tre'
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'Some very rare side effects may only be detectable when large numbers of people have been vaccinated'
no vax is perfect, people have reactions to those you seem to think are OK
too
so, as info ...
if your mind is made up don't get one
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living on the edge then
but you're not in favor of others getting them?
that's what your posts seem to say
I am in favor of people not being forced to take, what amounts to, an experimental vaccine against their will.
Tre'
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"Still Working the Problem"
so you didn't read at the John Hopkins site I linked to?
if you did, but your attention glazed over, or you glossed over what's there to consider because the controversy surrounding Covid vax has become quite tedious, I wouldn't blame you but ...
the salient points and the reason I linked to it are:
drug approvals are determined with either small study groups examined over long periods, or fast tracked using larger groups and shorter periods for efficacy and safety
both paths for approval are valid and regulated by the same agencies and accelerated programs are both in use and applied in emergencies before
the emergent Covid variant was deemed such a significant risk this was done in programs worldwide with unprecedented cooperation, meaning the largest study group in history spanning continents was used before the vaccines were approved across the globe ... that is of the utmost significance evaluating the 'rollout' decisions being made
it's worth exploring the subject at that site as they lay it out and address every medical concern and objection that I've encountered quite accessibly
as for the moral and legal issues involved, that's being chewed over in the media and legal systems on an ongoing basis worldwide as well
most of my family elected to vax probably for much the same reasons as you
for me it's like living a bad dream or horror story in slow motion
I was reflecting the other night that if this was just a horror story and the characters in danger called out for help but wouldn't take it when it arrived I'd probably stop reading or walk out of the movie thinking what dumbasses they were and start rooting for the horror because they had it coming!!
I don't like campy horror flicks very much for that very reason
with regards,
"but your attention glazed over"
Please, endeavor to post without being snarky. It will help you to be taken seriously.
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"Typical vaccine development timeline
Each clinical trial phase follows completion of the prior phase
Can take a long time to accumulate cases to assess vaccine efficacy outside pandemic
Manufacturing capacity is scaled-up after phase III trial and regulatory approval
Accelerated timeline in a pandemic
Some clinical trial phases are combined
Cases accumulate rapidly to assess vaccine efficacy because of the pandemic
Manufacturing capacity is scaled up during the clinical trials but at financial risk"
Do you know of a list of vaccines developed under the Accelerated timeline in a pandemic?
Tre'
Tre'
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It reads like we have always had two ways of developing vaccines.
The "Typical vaccine development timeline" and the "Accelerated timeline in a pandemic".
I don't believe that. I think the Covid vaccine was the first time a vaccine has been developed on the "Accelerated timeline in a pandemic".
Also I think that the Covid vaccine is the first mRNA type.
This is all very new ground.
If I am wrong please show me facts that prove it.
Tre'
Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
Seems a reasonable position.
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