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In Reply to: RE: Where is that stat from? posted by Rick W on September 24, 2021 at 08:05:46
I don't remember. But I still think that one is true. My sources are people I trust not to lie on purpose. Doesn't mean they are right. Also this might be true because they have one of the highest rates of vaccination. If they were 100% vaccinated then 100% of cases would be in the vaccinated. Truth is not easy to acquire. Do you have a source for the stat or you just want to dilute the idea?
The important thing about this stat is it points to the vaccine not stopping transmission.
Of course hosp. and death are important stats but this is a different topic.
Had never heard of Colpo before so have no opinion on their reliability.
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Seems like a pointless stat to me even if it was true, which I don't believe is the case (see link). You get vaccinated to prevent serious illness.
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Seems almost pointless to me too.
So if the "vaccine" doesn't prevent infection/transmission then why do we care if people are not vaccinated? Let them die, no?
That's what I been saying since before the poo hit the fan.
It aint about the dying, people do that every day.
It's about the goddamn calamity that's created within our healthcare system that wastes resources.
are so bad that people with non-covid problems can't get the treatment they need. Also, the cost of giving these bozos treatment in hospitals needlessly drives up the already ludicrously expensive cost of health care/insurance for everybody else. Otherwise, I see your point :-)
It could get a lot worse with cold/flu season coming. People working at hospitals say tons of people are coming in this year, unlike last year.
What the hell are you talking about nil? The vaccines are reported to be less effective against delta breakthrough infections but still more effective than no vaccine along with drastic reduction in hospitalizations and death. Sorry the world you are living in isn't perfect. WTF?
Denied facts are still facts.
The vaccine doesn't stop infection/transmission according to the general consensus. It only reduces severity of illness.
Since nobody seems to be challenging that aspect I'd give it a high probability of being true.
Actually haven't seen any data on that myself.
'haven't seen any data on that myself'
we'll just add this to the ever growing pile of data you haven't seen
and things that you can't be bothered to look up
or understand when you do
be well,
So you're telling me there is still a chance!
Continue to make up your own reality if you wish nil. I myself do not equate data as reported here with consensus. Your contention that the vaccines do not prevent infection is utter nonsense based on the CDC report. I does not prevent 100% of infections and are apparently less effective at preventing infection from Delta than Alpha. Once again, continue with your robotic and inaccurate statements all you want. All I can do is present the evidence that I can find by the powers that be.
Denied facts are still facts.
"I myself do not equate data as reported here with consensus"
I'm with you on that.
"Your contention that the vaccines do not prevent infection is utter nonsense based on the CDC report."
I didn't see anything in your link about that. More help please. There is a boatload of info on that site.
"Once again, continue with your robotic and inaccurate statements all you want."
Now that is just an opinion.
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Denied facts are still facts.
Looks like KKF did a good job but that source data is suspect.
Can you help me here, from the article:
"The CDC reports that as of July 19, of 5,601 hospitalized breakthrough cases, 27% were asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19"
How can a breakthrough case not be related to covid?
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