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In Reply to: RE: GM is mass market in China. posted by ghost of olddude55 on September 14, 2021 at 15:40:56
I drove a Cruze. Drove it home from Hertz. Drove it right back and returned it for something else. If that's the best they can do, it's just sad. I have NEVER driven a worse POS in my life.
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We are inclusive and diverse. But dissent will not be tolerated.
But GM has been making shitty cars for over 50 years. They used to have the benefit of being shitty but cheaper than Hondas and Toyotas.
They aren't cheaper anymore, but they're still shitty. Bad as the Cruze might have been, and I'll admit I never drove one, nothing else they make with the exception of maybe the Corvette is any better.
If they abandon the mass market like I've been predicting they will, they can close factories, dump dealerships, lay off workers. Reduce overhead and increase demand for whatever they make.
And as an added benefit, there will be fewer and fewer used cars as the years go by.
I only singled out GM because Ford's CEO du jour has kept mum on the issue of cutting production in order to drive up profits.
Disclaimer--I drive a Chevy Cobalt. And it's shitty. But it was cheap and it gets the job done.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
Edits: 09/14/21
Actually where I live I see lots of GM cars. Malibus are all over, not quite Camry like, but pretty common. Impalas, an actually nice looking one with a big sounding V6, SS I think (went to the website and it's not listed though) Camaro's all over the place. Guess those aren't considered mass market cars though. Trucks seem to be the mass market vehicle now, Chevy, Ford, RAM...everywhere, and I live in Silicon Valley, not really truck country...
Camaro hasn't got long to live either. They're still making the Malibu which completely shocks me, though I'd never buy one. That turbocharged engine is an oil burner, and GM right now is defending itself in a class action lawsuit by claiming that its warranty covers only defects in manufacture. Not defects in design. People had their cars run out of oil (by the time the warning light comes on, it's too late) because the rings didn't seal properly or couldn't handle boost, one of the two, and GM is refusing to honor the warranty.
I wouldn't touch any GM car with a turbo. In fact, if I were buying new, I'd never consider a GM car or truck period. The fuckers took a taxpayer bailout and shifted most of the production outside the US. Baseball, hotdogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet my ass.
Used, different story. Whatever is cheap, rust-free, and gets the job done.
The problem is not that there is evil in the world, the problem is that there is good. Because otherwise, who would care?
Edits: 09/14/21
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