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In Reply to: RE: Try Google posted by Rod M on August 29, 2021 at 21:03:01
Just a little of the substance and context provided by your referenced article. Kash Patel stated:"We handed our entire plan to the incoming Biden administration during the lengthy transition. The new team simply wasn't interested.
Everything changed when the new commander in chief declared that US forces would leave Afghanistan by Sept. 11, 2021, pushing back the Trump administration's timetable by four months. Crucially, he didn't condition the withdrawal on continued adherence to the agreed-upon stipulations. It would be an unconditional pullout with an arbitrary date based on pure symbolism - and set in stone.
At that point, the Taliban sat back and waited for the date to draw near, then launched a countrywide offensive, knowing they had no reason to fear any reprisals from this administration. The ongoing chaos - not least the stranding of US personnel and allies - was the natural result of the Biden administration's decision to eschew a conditions-based plan."
Edits: 08/29/21Follow Ups:
gosh, I hate to slaughter the source but seriously? Kash Patel?
Devin Nunes running buddy on his 'Freedom Tour'?
the Trump apparatchik darling of Breitbart & RW websites everywhere?
no one worked for Trump that wasn't a thoroughly vetted schmuck, period
that's like asking a flying monkey if the evil witch was just misunderstood
but do carry on, it doesn't change a single thing
you should take a peek as to what Kash is up to these days
if you guessed 'grifting' on Trump's name claim your prize!
regards,
What else is new?
did exactly what any reasonable person would expect: they refused to fight and die for a totally corrupt and illegitimate puppet government installed and payed for by the U.S.
Which was completely sensible!
LOL I am surprised Kabul lasted even 11 days. If you had lived through the vietnam years, you would have known how pathetic the fake government and fake army were a decade ago.
. I judge any sound system by how tiring it is to listen to.
Linkwitz
"The reduction could complicate matters for the incoming Biden administration, which must determine how to handle a Trump administration commitment to the Taliban to remove all U.S. military, intelligence and contractor personnel from Afghanistan by May as a move to spur peace negotiations. Those talks are in an early stage."
Also from your referenced article:
"President-elect Joe Biden, who has advocated keeping a small counterterrorism force in Afghanistan as a way to ensure that extremist groups like al-Qaida are unable to launch attacks on the United States, faces a number of questions on Afghanistan. One is how and whether to proceed with fledgling peace talks between the Taliban and the Afghan government.."
Hmmm.
Biden "advocated keeping a small counterterrorism force in Afghanistan". So Biden was actually against a full withdrawal from Afghanistan?
Interesting.
'Biden "advocated keeping a small counterterrorism force in Afghanistan"
he did, but don't take that too far out of context
that was based on the existing gov't & military remaining in control
or whatever passes for control there
when they folded like cheap lawn chairs he basically said screw it, out!
regards,
"that was based on the existing gov't & military remaining in control
or whatever passes for control there
when they folded like cheap lawn chairs he basically said screw it, out!"
Uh, no.
Biden made his decision to fully withdraw from Afghanistan prior to any of that happening.
'Biden made his decision to fully withdraw from Afghanistan prior to any of that happening'
no he didn't. those events occurred contemporaneously. here's a direct quote from the article you based your comment on about Biden keeping a contingent there ... second paragraph
"The reduction could complicate matters for the incoming Biden administration, which must determine how to handle a Trump administration commitment to the Taliban to remove all U.S. military, intelligence and contractor personnel from Afghanistan by May as a move to spur peace negotiations. Those talks are in an early stage"
note the first sentence and the date of the article; 1/15 is prior to the official transfer of office on 1/21. he had not decided yet on troop retention and the directive to [reportedly] draw troop levels down to 2.5K wasn't his
you've taken the context of an article published prior to Biden taking office and applied it to events that transpired months later not me
he did say he would consider keeping 'advisors' there after taking office during those 'talks' the quoted article said were pending, I saw & heard this in televised press briefings, read it too but I'm not digging up citations
as the pull out began when asked by the press if there would be any US military presence left at all he alluded to one 'in the region' and 'discussions' but as soon as 'provinces' started falling without an Afghan military response and their gov't stopped taking calls, never again to my knowledge
Do you trust Mr. Patel?
At least as much as Americans approve of Biden's handling of the Afghanistan situation. :-) Oh wait, actually, more than Americans approve of Biden's handling of the Afghanistan situation. Polls show only 25 - 31% of Americans (depending on which poll, NBC News poll or Morning Consult/Politico poll) approve of Biden's handling of the Afghanistan situation.
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