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In Reply to: RE: "The world has made spectacular progress in every single measure of posted by pictureguy on September 16, 2020 at 12:14:18
'humanity WILL teeter over the edge'
only if you're a 'flat earther'
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A metaphorical edge.
Too much is never enough
of course ...
Nonetheless, if man doesn't PLAN for a soft-landing, the result will be awful.
And I'm talking Multiple-Billions of deaths.
Too much is never enough
man will not plan ... there is neither a long view nor the discipline to execute it anyway ... look around, you know it's true
population earth can't even get it together to beat back a pandemic with the simple act of wearing masks in public, or distancing, especially in the US ... you've seen the commentary on this site ... it's much worse on other sites that cater to such mindsets
sorry
Ordinarily I'd agree with your viewpoint.
However, there ARE a few who are both forward looking and active.
I have yet to decide on the final list, however, included would be members of the following groups::
1. Permanent members of the Bilderberg Group.
And INTERLOCKING membership from:
2. Council on Foreign relations
3. TriLateral Commission
You may include a few members BY ACCIDENT from a few other groups.....but by and large the 3 named above are working for a soft landing.
right now? Population growth on the planet is very low, but still a positive number with a doubling time of maybe 50 to 60 years ( <1%) while for long term survival, far fewer people are desired.
If the plan were part of a democratic or republican process? It would indeed, never happen.
I wish I could come up with the quote about the 'game' being played OVER the heads of the masses.
Too much is never enough
just to effect any meaningful change of direction there would need to be a bi-partisan plan carried out through several election cycles and administrations ... so the whole concept is simply DOA ... the political climate has become too tribal on a curve that will not unbend soon
on one side spending priorities tend towards nepotism so pockets are lined and on the other on current problems that require tremendous expenditures [with some hands in the cookie jar too] let alone funding for any altruistic, humanist plans for the future. on top of that to coordinate the US direction with the other major powers where their govt systems are at least as dysfunctional is just too huge of an ask
it's heartening that you've some ideas and vision though
I just can't help having a nihilistic forecast knowing the nature of the beast with climate change breathing down 'our' necks ... the progress you point to though substantial is not self perpetuating
best regards,
The groups I cite are MASSIVELY influential. If you look at membership, you won't recognize many names....but ALL are 'players'.
these groups influence law, policy and society in general. Do not underestimate their power.
The population at large is reactive, not proactive.
Now, this is not a guarantee. I still give it maybe 50:50 but not better. So many moving parts!
OH! Add the BIS....Bank for International Settlements to the list. This is THE main creditor on the planet. And SWISS.
Too much is never enough
'you won't recognize many names'
why would you assume that?
anyway, my bad for spreading all that sunshine but I disagree with your odds ... anything's worth a try I guess; contact those entities and see if they're willing to form your proposed coalition, maybe we'll both have a laugh over the response ...
I know, there you go again! [w/ Reagan voice over]
best regards,
Unless you are into corporate and government minutia, you probably won't recognize many names.
Like all the relatives of the Red Shields....known as the Rothschillds. Many family members are part of corporate and government.....but you RARELY hear the names.
Lots of players are not the first string guys IN THE NEWS....but rather are a layer down......An example from American Politics? Look at how Congress is organized. Various committee assignaments and you work your way UP the ladder to committee chair, maybe. But you have STAFF nobody or few ever hear about. Staff do the work and the Congressman or Senator is the Front Man.
Look at Greta Thunberg. A total tool. I'd like to ask her about how weather works or some question that if she wasn't a parrot, she'd know. Very Telegenic, however, and terrific on camera.
Maybe 50:50 IS a little pessimistic. Maybe.
I'm not an optimist in this regard. Certainly not better than 3:2 Nobody is going to give ground on this. Even to our destruction. What group will VOLUNTARILY cap their population? Or restrict resource use until such time as a better balanced is achieved?
Too much is never enough
Edits: 09/17/20
I've got a venn diagram of old European $$ in American politics I'll share if I can find it again on my scattered collection of thumb drives ... can't seem to find it on-line anymore
'What group will VOLUNTARILY cap their population?'
the Chinese, but you already knew that
best regards,
I know that the 'One Child' policy is both hotly debated AND controversial.
Personally, I doubt it worked well.....or enough to justify the dislocation it engendered.
Don't forget that when Ultrasound became ubiquitous that in INDIA so many female fetuses were aborted that it substantially tipped the natural male / female child balance and an entire generation of Indian Men grew up with little chance of landing a wife, let alone a date.
Unintended consequences RULE.
Too much is never enough
focused sound waves aren't healthy for whales either
SAVE THE WHALES!
collect the whole set!
regards,
"I've got a venn diagram of old European $$ in American politics I'll share if I can find it again on my scattered collection of thumb drives ... can't seem to find it on-line anymore"
At least you said that it might be somewhere, so, we should believe it anyway?
Idiocy.
Until you "find it", ...
**piffle**
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