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In Reply to: RE: Allez Comp DSW posted by JDK on June 14, 2017 at 15:48:50
So it looks like they've gotten racier with the Allez Comp since I last had a look. I checked out the Allez DSW geometry and it's within 1mm of the basic Allez, so it seems like the main difference is stiffness.
I've always liked the Allez as a good all-around road bike for riders who are fit but not super-serious, and I've had several friends who owned them (or the Dolce). I don't know the Allez Comp nearly as well. My friends who upgraded from the Allez skipped right over and it into $3-5k range.
I have a couple of friends who own Litespeeds and they really like how they ride. On paper, Titanium offers perhaps the ideal combination of weight, energy efficiency, and ride quality. Unfortunately, they're a bit too short (front to back) for me, otherwise I'd probably own one.
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Absolutely beautiful and pure class - Made from rare Reynolds Titanium in the Trek factory.
Cheers,
John K
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Thanks, I didn't realize that. I'm guessing that was early 90s when he was still quasi-independent? I'll have to look.Hmm... looked through LeMond brochures from the Trek years (1996+) and don't see any Ti frames. Looks like he had Ti frames built from 1990 to 1995 from several different manufacturers.
Edit- found them.
After further research, it looks like the good LeMond Ti bikes were either the ones with the Merlin-built frames Greg raced on in the very early 90s, which presumably sold in very low numbers and are rarer than hens teeth, or the ones Gary Helfrich built at Trek from 2001-2004. Of the latter, it looks like I have the following choices if I want a full Ti frame:
2001-2002 Tete de Course
2001-2003 Victoire
2003-2004 ArriveeThe only downside is that these frames are about 1.5cm shorter than the late 90s models I was coveting. But still longer than average. You've definitely piqued my interest!
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Litespeed geometry fits me just right. I knew it as soon as I put my leg over it. And all their road frame geometries match. I've thought of upgrading to a newer Litespeed frame - stiffer, lighter, with 1 1/8" steerer so I get a full choice of forks - but, whatever, my 1999 model is still fit for purpose :-) Stiff enough, light enough, definitely strong enough! I've ridden a mates $$$$$ Baum custom and can't feel any remarkable improvements in power transfer ......
LeMond geometry definitely works for some body types - I know a couple of devotees. And those Trek era ones are beautifully made and intricately finished.
Lynskey will do full custom Ti, as will Rivet (Chinese made, properly marketed), and Habanero in Arizona (maybe a bit too cheap and cheerful, but strong and fit for purpose!).
Cheers,
John K
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