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I visited Home Depot, Lowes, and an auto parts store a couple weeks ago looking for a good gasoline can that would hold about 2 - 2.5 gallons for my Yamaha generator.To my surprise they all have a goofy plastic spout with a clunky spring loaded venting tip. You have to twist the cap off then twist one section of the two piece spout to align with the other piece so you can pull back on the spring mechanism to release a round vent cover at the spout tip.
Talk about a pain in the butt and a lot of fumbling around to pour gas, and it requires both hands !!
Are all gas cans like this now? Are there any better alternatives including old school basic gas cans - metal or plastic with a simple spout and cap? I couldn't find any.
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Filling my tractor. Solution? Bought a replacement like this from the local Ace Hardware.
Problem solved. :)
Can't buy the whole can / spout combo together but a "replacement spout" might be the workaround answer. ;-) Thanks.
don't you guys (most of the contributors to the thread) think maybe it's to our long term benefit that the petrol vapours aren't floating around the atmosphere? Why is it considered Nannyism if the government you elected take a decision for the good of you and your families health?
The American public appear to be behind the curve when it comes to global environmental protection thinking. Just saying.....
I don't want to get 'politcal' as this thread will suddenly disappear. It is my opinion that the EPA does serve a purpose but in recent years they have overstepped their authority significantly. That's all I'll say about it.
Your wisdom is very much appreciated.
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I value informed opinions, and shun anger as a display of power.
Here's the main EPA mandated PFC requirement that spoiled it for me:- Automatic closure, meaning a nozzle which automatically springs to the closed position when not pouring.
I found a few online articles about gas cans (PFC's):
https://lfb.org/how-government-wrecked-the-gas-can/
https://www.thespruce.com/regulations-for-portable-fuel-containers-2153054
Although not vented, I own two of these and they work great but I can no longer buy them in the stores because of the automatic nozzle closure requirement:
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I especially liked this quote from your first link:
"It's all caused by idiotic government regulations that are wrecking our lives one consumer product at a time, all in ways we hardly notice."
Except that some of us do notice.
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
and still going strong after thirty-five years. Still available, as far as I know, in Deutschland.
To tell you that Canadian Tire store doesn't carry that portable fuel container model anymore. Perhaps, it became obsolete when Hillman Minx car maker went out of business during the Art Deco period.
If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing well
(Proverb)
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Nanny state meddling provides someone a great business opportunity don't get mad get rich.
You can thank the environmentalist whacko lobbies and the EPA for that. We don't want any excess fumes going into the atmosphere! This is an example of what Pres. Trump means when he says the EPA is out of control.
This might make you a little sad/nostalgic: I remember when my parents had a gas can for the lawnmower, and it actually was a metal CAN. About 3 gallons, with a built-in metal nozzle and a little vent hole, both with screw-on metal caps. Easy-peasy. Try selling those these days.
Here's another good one: 1.6 gallon per flush toilets - MANDATED by the government. A company cannot build or sell toilets which use more than that. Ok, so, I'll just flush it twice instead of once. Problem solved.
BTW, has anyone here actually read all the non-removable stickers/notices on the car windshield visor?
:)
My Low Flush toilet (1.6 gallon per) will flush a bowl full of golf balls.
3" flush valve release entire tank in one gigantic 'woosh'.
I have an old toilet (original, 30 year old) in the OTHER Bathroom and fitted it with a plastic bottle holding about 2 quarts to reduce flush volume. It's a 3 gallong model, LONG out of favor.
I think the new stuff is even LOWER water usage.
Too much is never enough
Remember "Crabby Old Man" from Saturday Night Live ?
"THATS THE WHAY IS WAS & WE LIKED IT."
To funny. If you don't like that self closing nozzle, cut the mutha f**king end off. Problem solved. But don't forget to cap the spout when your done.
I'm pretty sure the EPA had nothing to do with it. The Consumer Products Safety Commission, yes, the EPA no. If what you are referring to is what I think it is, it's there to prevent your gas can from becoming a flame thrower.
please, don't confuse people with facts. They know what they know & it the nanny state.
I did some research and provided some links in my recent post above.
Read the stickers on a ladder...LOL
Will
I agree 100%.
There appears to be a gas can / spout design that might work for me. 1973shovel posted a link further down this thread. The ones I saw at my local stores were total garbage.
Low flow shower heads, low-flow faucets, low capacity toilets, etc are a pain. I used to shower longer and flush more which doesn't save water, it just wastes time. I drill out the flow restrictor in our shower heads. ;-)
Great comments.
You reminded me: I need to go to the plumbing supply store (not HD or L) and get a flow restrictor for our shower head. The water just blows straight through the 5/8" (?) pipe and out the head. WAY more water than I need.
On the other hand, I take out the flow restrictor from my yard/foundation soaker hose. I mean, really, I should be able to soak the house foundation in a reasonable amount of time, instead of having to think about it and checking it all f-ing day or night.
With regard to low-flow faucets... don't even get me started. Example: For the AES convention in L.A. in 2014, I stayed at the "downtown" Sheraton (now part of Starwood). First, the hotel was something like $200 per night (advance purchase). Then, they charged $40 a night to park my car in their garage. Course, the valet also wanted a tip. Plus, the taxes that the City, County and State wanted - to get "their share". So, with that as a setting, I was in my Sheraton hotel room trying to get some warm water. Seriously, and I'm not kidding, it took damn near two minutes to fill a plastic cup with warm water!! Why? Because they had a flow restrictor on the faucet! I will NOT stay there EVER again.
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And lets not forget those hotels that over soften their water. Makes you feel so slimy and unable to get the soap off under the low pressure shower head!
I had similar water gushing results when removing a shower head flow restrictor in one of our showers. Instead, I drilled a couple extra holes (slightly larger holes) into the plastic restrictor and that seemed to do the trick.
Hey fart stain have you tried the thing? No. It's easy to use I'm surprised Abe had a problem. On the other hand it's no surprise you politicized it AND are completely wrong. Please tell us what is wrong with trying to make less gas vapor escape. As I said my first impression was negative but my experience is that it is the best I've ever owned.....now that I learned how to use it.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
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"Hey fart stain have you tried the thing? No. It's easy to use I'm surprised Abe had a problem. On the other hand it's no surprise you politicized it AND are completely wrong. Please tell us what is wrong with trying to make less gas vapor escape. As I said my first impression was negative but my experience is that it is the best I've ever owned.....now that I learned how to use it."
This is one of the problems when trying to converse with some people:
"Hey fart stain".
One more thing:
"the best I've ever owned.....now that I learned how to use it."
Any 4-year-old should be able to open a can, and not have to "learn how to use it" - as an adult!
No, sorry, one MORE thing:
"it's no surprise you politicized it"
I didn't politicize it - it is what it is: environmental ideology. I merely called it what it is.
Mister know nothing never tried it. I love how you continually prove what a buffoon you are daily here. You didn't politicize it? OMG denial is not a river in Egypt.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
Do you actually know which gas cans I was seeing at the stores?The one that 1973shovel posted looks promising so I'll look into it. They're not available at my local stores.
Thanks for being so helpful and adding to the conversation.
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I used one hand with about 40 pounds of gas. Notice when the seal opened a few drops came out. I should have released the seal first to relieve the built up pressure. Android rotated the video 90 degrees, looked fine on the phone. I uploaded a church sale video taken from that phone last week but transferred the file from my phone to PC then uploaded it and it oriented fine. Mine is different and cheaper than shovels both are from Tractor Supply. I think I benefit from the extra weight of the gas.
View YouTube Video
extra weight over a small.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
than the one I bought, without doing any researching beforehand.
The additional handle on the back of your can offers you better ergonomics than mine, which only has a handle at the top.
The most important difference I can see is the shut-off valve on yours is at the tip of the spout, while mine is located at the base. So, the couple of times my spout slipped off the filler neck of my bike's gas tank, yes, the shut-off stopped the flow, but still allowed whatever gas was in the spout to pour all over the tank.
If I bought my gas can to use on my lawnmower's tank, 1.5 feet off the ground, I'd not have had the same complaints. But trying to hold this 5 gallon can up to chest height with one hand, while trying to turn the locking shut-off ring at the base of the spout with the other, while trying to maintain even downward pressure on the filler neck went beyond inconvenient, and caused me to spill gas all over my bike's tank a few times.
Since switching to a free flow spout, I've had no more problems with spillage, but the gas can is now un-vented so pouring can be slow. This whole topic got me curious, and a quick search showed me that I could buy and install a vent, but they seem to generally be sold in multiple quantities. I'm hoping I can find a single available at Tractor Supply.
Thanks for the video, E Man. Hope life is treating you well.
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
I'm sure that design works fine for the location of your gas tank opening. It wouldn't work right for my Yamaha generator but the one that 1973shovel linked to probably will.
I have several of the plastic type with a pull out pour spout. Most spouts leak some gas after they are used a few times. I have several old metal gas cans including a Jerry or Jeep can with a good metal spout. It is a bit clumsy to use due to it's size and weight. I think we are stuck with the plastic ones now. I suppose you might find a better metal can at a car parts swap meet or on ebay?
I have a couple outstanding plastic gas cans that are a couple years old so the plastic is not the real issue for me. The most recent ones I've seen have a crazy spring loaded contraption in the twist and pull-down spout for venting and to release the gas.
I'm looking for a better design. A couple folks have posted a possible solution with a trigger pull mechanism that looks promising and better than anything I've seen in my local stores.
I thought it was just the Republic Of California that did that crap.
All over, eh?
I maintain a 25 or so year old gascan. Just cut new cork gaskets.
And yes, sitting in a store I couldn't figure out the new cans and the prices for the inconvenience were wacky.
I hardly need the gallon can I have. When I fill the mower, the rest goes in my car so I never STORE any fuel.
Too much is never enough
I bought a five gallon version since it was only $2 more than the two or two/half at Tractor Supply. When you understand how to use it you'll see. Simply remove the little cap and have the little tab catch on the lip/rim of the devices filler cap. Totally kicks ass, never spills a drop. The design is made to prohibit the escape of excess vapor. Trust me itd great when you figure it out.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
I refuse to put up with this gooberment nanny-ism.
Scrounge flea markets, yard sales, swap meets, etc. for old fashioned gas cans in decent condition. Failing that, use an old resealable container meant for oil, coolant, or the similar and carry a plastic funnel that will allow you to add gas to almost anything. One of those long plastic funnels that were intended for adding automatic transmission fluid makes the job a piece of cake.
Cheers,
SB
You judge to quick and look for scapegoat. Childish and self-centered.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
Edited due to the fact that the post eliciting my rather strong and irate response has been deleted.Cheers,
SB
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Federal eco nanny-ism have made simple gas cans impossible to buy in the USA. Canada, maybe. Or used on eBay. Every store I visited had gas cans with ridiculous venting contraptions in the spout.
Canadian Tire store for $20.00. Very simple to operate with no fumbling mess to deal with.
If a thing's worth doing, it's worth doing well
(Proverb)
Except that mine came with this EPA mandated sealed spout. Lifting a 5 gallon can above waist height while attempting to work the spout becomes a two-person job. I spilled more gas because of it than would have ever escaped via vapors.
I had to spend another $10 for the spout shown on yours, just to make mine functional. I'm all for the EPA keeping our rivers from catching on fire, but when they ineptly micro-manage peoples lives, they've over-reached their purpose.
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
Yep.Works better than ANYTHING I have ever used. Not by a little either, by a lot. I go back to the cork sealed can days.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
I've never tried it, but the accompanying video makes it look fairly simple.
They make it in a five gallon too, and I wish I'd seen that before I bought mine a few years ago.
I found a station near me that sold 93 octane ethanol free gas. My car and both bikes call for premium, and I try and avoid ethanol, so I was keeping an extra 5 gallons around to top off the bikes, but they've since stopped selling the premium pure gas.
I bought some piece of crap which required an 1/8th turn at the spigot, then you had to push the nozzle down on the edge of whatever you were filling, and keep the pressure on to allow the gas to flow. Meanwhile, trying to balance a five gallon can while keeping the nozzle in the tank, and not dripping gas on my freshly waxed tanks. Thanks EPA!
I found a replacement nozzle for my tank at Tractor Supply, but the can is un-vented, so it's better, but sill a pain in the ass.
If the one I linked to works as easily as it shows in the video, hopefully it will suit your needs, and you have a Tractor Supply in your area.
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
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reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
I had not seen that design before and certainly not in any of my local stores. I'll look into it.
When I read your post, I went to the Tractor Supply site to look for the spout I had to buy from them to fix my Wal-Mart purchased, EPA approved, Scepter.
I intended to show you the free-flow nozzle I had to buy, but found that push-button can I linked to. I only wish I'd seen that a few years ago, before I bought mine.
Glad it helped.
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
I got a different model, 5 gallon , for 14.99 at TS.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
I recently had the exact same experience. Very disappointing.
Happy listening,
Jim
"The passage of my life is measured out in shirts."
- Brian Eno
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