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In Reply to: RE: Do we know that such a move obliterates the effect? Maybe go next door? nt posted by clarkjohnsen on July 31, 2007 at 08:41:19
nt"silence tells me secretly, everything..."
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In other words, what's the distance at which this sort of thing no longer works? Or, is it an ownership-territory thing?
clark
> > > "What if "next door" is an apartment and thier rooms are contiguous with yours? (Just askin'...) In other words, what's the distance at which this sort of thing no longer works? Or, is it an ownership-territory thing?" < < <
Regarding 'Belt' techniques it is an 'ownership-territory' thing. We (human beings) are very territorial so regarding reading/sensing our environment for energy patterns associated with danger or reading/sensing our environment for energy patterns associated with reassurance then the immediate room we are in takes precedence - but we are still (if you like for want of a better phrase) 'keeping a wary eye/ear' on the other rooms in our territory - right up to our boundary - and the boundary is whatever we have designated as our boundary.
Regarding conventional techniques then if you are talking about the actual acoustics of a room, then these will be concerned purely with the immediate room. Having said that there is now (and really always has been but people in the world of audio have not been prepared to acknowledge this) some confusion as to what people are going to call 'conventional' !!
If you read an article published in 6 moons - Re Acoustic Systems resonators it describes the designer of the Acoustic Systems resonators demonstrating them to the journalists :-
> > > > When Franck reappeared, he admitted that he'd removed a resonator outside the room in the courtyard. So a resonator behind at least two panes of glass still influences the perceived sound. < < < <
Further quotes from this particular article.
> > > "But the strangest -- and for the likes of James Randi & Co. most nonsensical -- places to put a resonator was still to come. Franck asked where the refrigerator was. He placed a resonator inside on the bottom ledge.
Call us crazy, all you naysayers, but until you experience it, keep your comments to yourselves.
So what can we say about these little contraptions that when mentioned in audiophile surroundings cause a lot of eyebrow to wrinkle? Franckly, they work exactly as advertised. Maybe our homebrew explanation of how and why they work is not covering all bases but there is neither voodoo at work nor snake oil magic. It is pure Physics based on resonance distribution, partial cancellations and human perception.
With all these positive effects and our profound satisfaction with the results, the big question naturally remains. How the eff do these things work? One side of our brains doesn't give a damn. Of all things in life, science does not begin to touch a fraction of how and why things work. < < < < <
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The authors of this particular article admit that they do not know how the resonators change the sound but they believe 'there is neither voodoo at work nor snake oil magic'. They squeeze, stretch, pull, push, bend conventional explanations in an effort to try to explain what they have heard. But, what they write (and describe) in 2007 is a parallel to how so many audio journalists in the UK described their experiences with P.W.B. devices and techniques 20 years ago - and we (at P.W.B.) DO NOT use resonating techniques. We use other techniques but get similar results. So, how come we can obtain the same effect (an improvement in the sound) as the authors of the article mentioned describe if there is not 'something going on which cannot be explained from conventional electronic or acoustic theories' ? And, gain the improvement in the sound as they had by doing 'something in other rooms' ?
I will repeat again what the authors of the article referred to said because it is really so important.
> > > > "With all these positive effects and our profound satisfaction with the results, the big question naturally remains. How the eff do these things work? One side of our brains doesn't give a damn. Of all things in life, science does not begin to touch a fraction of how and why things work." < < < < <
How true that is !!!!
Regards,
May Belt.
...thanks for the explanation (if such it be).
clark
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