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Hello all...
Some of you will be interested in this new article at *Positive Feedback* by Andreas Koch of Playback Designs, describing a new Open Standard Specification for DSD-over-PCM Frames via USB. He developed this in cooperation with Andy McHarg of dCS and Rob Robinson of ChannelD. Others, specified in the article, have announced that they will support this new Open Standard for DSD.
This is a very important development for the growing use of DSD, since it will make it easier to implement downloadable DSD and play it back from hard drive via USB 2.0 on both Windows and Mac computers.
Important reading for all who are in this forum, I think....
david
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I do hope CA succeeds in making all (most) music available in a high resolution format; consensus the format is matured with wide agreement on the best implementation method; good backup and recovery procedures built in; album art and literature equivalent or exceeding LP's; and significant computer knowledge to implement correctly is not a requirement.
While it's true SACD selection is primarily oriented towards classical music, I'm not so sure it's a "dying" format. Even though the audio media is furiously promoting CA as the new frontier, so far CA itself has a rather "thin" RBCD or higher resolution catalog. I don't believe it's currently even equivalent to SACD except for pop/rock music.
My passion for music is the main purpose for having a high quality stereo system. But I want the playback to be as close to an intimate live acoustic performance as possible, and I believe I've largely achieved that except for the scale of large classical orchestral music. Currently I and other audiophiles are not convinced this level of playback has been achieved when comparing CA to physical media.
I do agree CA has a storage and portability advantage over physical media that is appealing, together with a "potential" to make much more high resolution music available. But currently that comes at a cost of royalty issues (this may well be the "elephant in the room"), limited availability, questionable sonic superiority compared to the best implemented CD/SACD, complexity, and a loss of most album art and literature.
It took almost 20 years for RBCD to sonically mature, and many audiophiles simply stayed with LP's - some still consider this 60 year old technology the best music format. If it wasn't for the "hobby" nature of LP's I may have done the same, but I'd rather listen to music than play with equipment.
I do truly hope CA becomes the de facto medium allowing audiophiles access to the equivalent of master files for most music produced. But until that and my other pre-conditions occur, I'll continue enjoying my physical media.
I do understand the allure of CA and applaud those "pioneers" of this new experience. I just hope it doesn't take CA as long as CD's to mature, or stay a primarily low resolution format.
Len
Agree. I also would rather play music than play with equipment.
Tubes and vinyl can be swell but Ed Meitner manages to make digital music sound pretty exceptional.
We are testing a prototype DAC that will accept USB input and play both DSD and PCM music from Audirvana. It is finally here and possible to play DSD from a computer.
Very unlikely to take hold as PCM is good enough, just look at SACD v RBCD
Is good enough ever good enough??
To my humble ears DSD recordings seem just a little bit better than PCM!!
Yes, I've been using this DSD standard for a few months now (Mytek, Meitner beta) and native DSD recordings, or analog-to-DSD masterings, are quite amazing. Piano is sublime. And to think there are a couple thousand (2k-3k out of approx 7k SACD's) opportunities to rip these native recordings. Yes, native true 24/176k and 192k sounds amazing too, but there are very few outside of Barry Diament's Soundkeeper, Keith Johnson's RR and Todd Gafinkle's MA Recordings (a few dozen). The DSD world is chock full.
ted b
Please if permissible could you expand a bit more on the Meitner Beta testing for DSD. Over which model machine was this done through?
Many thanks.
Neville
Neville,
Meitner has announced that they will have DSD via the dCS-DSD-over-USB protocol, and will have the firmware and driver updates available here within several weeks, for the MA-1 (scroll to support area). That's all I can say for now.
It's an exciting time for DSD enthusiasts as folks like Rob Robinson (Pure Music) report that they are getting quite a few requests from DAC manufacturers about this open standard protocol.
Neville, et al,
As I kind of stated earlier, I have been beta testing the DoP (DSD over PCM, Version 1.0 05FA marker) firmware for the Meitner MA-1, and the Company will likely release the firmware to their site later today.
The results of the beta testing (mine was Mac Mini, but the USB drivers are doing DoP in Windows as well) were nothing sort of wonderful. Especially with true native DSD recordings the effortlessness and musicality of the recordings shine through as I've never experienced. Nothing digital about it. A write-up is forthcoming.
Cookie Marenco's BlueCoast Records, is offering a no-joke March 31 HUGE sale on its great DSD Sampler collection album called the ESE Collection Vol 1. You can download each DSD track for a penny, the whole album for TEN CENTS!!
Seriously......no April fool joke. See link
I bought the whole album, DSD...but when it came to the downloads...I got 12 individual downloads...Granted, a great deal, but could be packaged better, as if this was a full price sale, I don't think I would do this again.
It's all about the music!
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Edits: 03/31/12
Thanks Ted. Look forward to the write up.
h
Does anyone know when the patents for SACD reading expire (ie, the ability to read and make sense of what's on the disc)?
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