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In Reply to: Great - We can have Dueling Reviews! posted by Chris from Lafayette on July 19, 2005 at 23:16:26:
Interesting that th thread gets back to music..This is what sacd should be about?...
I have the Shostakovitch and also the RBCD of Chailly Decca.I dont think the sacd is anywhere near as good a version and the recording is a bit bright and brash at times..Definitly not DSD original...However....Meanwhile on sa-cd net there seems to be dissent in the ranks on reviews of sacds...eg I personally found the Bruckner 5th VPO Harrencourt a huge dissapointment and worse than a redbook cd..also the stop start performance...meanwhile Viktor found the Higdon Telarc musically threadbare and reported it such..Sonically fabulous...This seems to have provoked outrage that anyone who doent like the music should review?...shades of something we remember in out history lessons???>..strong hints that we are not supposed to review the music?....just the sacd.....meanwhile (part two) I would also suggest you check out some of the Membran items...List is on that website....These may not be state of the art (1991-6)recordings but there are some fantastic items in there..... solo piano works .Schubert Debussy Chopin etc ..C Franck and Gorecki symphonies..C Davies music...also beware a few duffers...and be prepared to go from one piece to the next in record time.....very very short gaps...Dave
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Wouldn't know how many times over some inmates already have another rendition of the recording on vinyl or CD (perhaps from a different conductor, orchestra, soloist, etc). To them at least, this is strictly about the sound quality and is the recording better or at least on par (preferably much better) than what else they own. Teresa states she does not plan on listening to this SACD again. I'm don't believe that is because of the music content.I appreciate the opinions on the sound quality so I can avoid some clunkers. Opinions vary and I understand that but at least I have something to go on. Heading to the music board will give opinions about the music content for which one can judge if they may be interested in listening based upon that.
I love both composers mentioned and would love to have all of Skryabin's Symphonies if they are recorded correctly. In time I am sure someone like Telarc will make decent recordings of these.
... I think you ought to do yourself some good and spend money on some concert tickets and a plain ticket... fly to St. Petersburg and see for yourself.
This SACD is anemic in the lower registers, which causes the midrange and the even the high frequencies to sound incorrect. I do not believe for one second the St. Petersburg hall sounds glassy, cold, hard and totally devoid of low frequency energy, if so I never want to listen to an orchestra play there! Check out how realistic the Mercury Living Presence recordings done in the Bolshoi Hall, Tchaikovsky Conservatory, Moscow sounds, it is warm deep bass, smooth midrange and beautiful delicate highs and the sound HUGH with pin-point imaging using 3 microphones. Or for that matter any recordings on Telarc, Mercury Living Presense, RCA Living Stereo or Reference Recordings.The Water Lily SACD is extremely bass shy; live music DOES NOT sound like this. This is why I am letting everyone listen to this disgraceful SACD for free.
... perhaps I am confusing the thunderous bass with local earthquakes, I do live in LA...
The 3 WaterLily SACDs have extremely full and deep bass with remarkable detail.
yours with thunderous bass and mine with no bottom end.
I found the way these open up is to play them really(!) loud and move the listening position forward. Stereo or MCH, although the latter doesn't require as much repositioning.
But sorry the bottom octaves are missing and that just will not do. The low frequencies do not have to have the energy of a Telarc but they should at least be there!BTW you can only listen in 2 channel stereo there is not MCH tracks which makes sense they only used 2 microphones.
the X/Y process does that...
Use a proper headamp to drive the Senns, otherwise you are listening to crap.
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"BTW you can only listen in 2 channel stereo there is not MCH tracks which makes sense they only used 2 microphones."Only the Scriabin. Check with REG about the others.
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