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In Reply to: RE: Streams at 24/96 on QOBUZ... posted by Ivan303 on October 30, 2020 at 06:12:46
As a lot of you know, I've been overly critical of FWM personally..... His Schubert Nine is a performance that is better taken in as a whole, as opposed to the "strengths and weaknesses" of the work as it progresses...... This would be a great example for music appreciation classes, FWM let the work go on its own momentum..... Too many other performances fail, simply because the conductor put too much of a personal stamp on this work, and ends of being a "nice performance, but"..... This is easily the best performance FWM has released with the Cleveland Orchestra, on commercial recording.
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That really has a personal stamp on it - although I'm undecided as to whether that's a good thing in this particular work! ;-)
The Prokofiev Three is a work I'm not familiar with...... But I might check it out.
Too bad this comes in a 3 CD set for about $65..... And the rest of the music doesn't really interest me all that much..........
Edits: 10/31/20
I will try this tomorrow.
In any case, the WM/Cleveland is an interesting recording, but I suspect that since it's only a two-channel offering, you might prefer (as I do) one of the MCh offerings of this work, such as this new one on BIS:
And, Todd - you know I'd never try to browbeat you! ;-)
The new Litton and the Gaffigan are much preferred although I still keep coming back to the Abbado/LSO on Decca.
Welser-Most pulls the the Scherzo like taffy and the preceding Adagio is almost dead.
. . . is that he suppresses the creepy portamenti in the strings (instead of bringing them out, as most conductors do) - to me, it's an interesting take on this movement. My main disappointment with the WM recording lies with the engineering, which IMHO is slightly veiled compared with Litton and Gaffigan. (I don't know if I still have my old Abbado recording!) Another good two-channel one is the Gergiev/LSO on Warner - I also have Gergiev's blu-ray video done in-concert with his St. Petersburg forces, which I've come to feel is a bit synthetic sounding, with too many microphones, although it IS great to hear "Seven, They are Seven" and "Cantata for the 20th Anniversary of the October Revolution" in surround! In fact, I may crank up "Seven, They are Seven" for the trick or treaters when (or if!) they come around tonight - that'll show 'em not to come around next year!
Welser Most has struck me as a conductor who does things "auto pilot"...... If the music has depth do it (modern Russian composers like Prokofiev, Shostakovich), FWM usually fails to capture it.....
The "auto pilot" on the other hand worked very nicely with the Schubert Nine........ (Although the one part that had "depth", the middle portion of the Third Movement, was the weak part of the performance. But otherwise did really well.)
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