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I have a nice cherry finish Mapleshade audio rack that I bought last year.
I'm moving my equipment around to make room for a new turntable.
When I moved the cdp, I noticed four black marks left by the isolation feet of the CD player. I cannot rub the marks out and now look like they are part of the finish. What can I do to remove these marks without damaging the finish?
The last thing I want to do is sand and refinish it. I suppose in hindsight I could've put something under the feet to protect the finish, but didn't think this was going to happen.
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I think if this happened to me I would try these two products. I've had success using the Howard's product in the appropriate color tone with very fine steel wool on antique furnature. Maybe this will work for you, Good Luck.
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. I'm not going to touch it.
I've been waiting to hear back from Mapleshade, but perhaps they are closed up for the Thanksgiving holiday.
What is the actual finish on your rack? From the pic, it looks like an oiled finish, like that used on many real wood veneered speaker cabinets.
If it is an oil finish, the oil may have slightly dissolved a bit of the isolation foot material and acted as a carrier to create the stain. Application of a light solvent, like naptha (Goo-Gone, Zippo fluid, etc.), or mineral spirits may be able to pull it back out.
I wouldn't sand, unless absolutely necessary. I also don't use steel wool around any of my electronics--especially speakers. Steel wool creates metallic "fines" which are magnetic, and will be picked up by anything having a magnetic field. 3M/Scotch makes non-metallic Scotch-Brite pads for finishing. Available in any paint dept. at places like Lowe's/Homey Depot, etc. They come in different "grits", just like steel wools or sandpapers.
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Your suggestions are good but in another post, I mentioned I'm not going to touch it until I hear from Mapleshade. They may have closed up for the week due to the Thanksgiving holiday.
I did see that in your previous post, and I would definitely wait for a response from MS before doing anything.
I had just noticed that no one had addressed the possible use of a solvent, and wanted to make you aware of the potential hazards of steel wool vs the non-metallic alternatives. The magnetic fines generated by steel wool can end up in the damnedest places--speaker VC gaps, cart bodies, electric motors, etc., and cause real problems. They are basically magnetic, abrasive "dust".
Good Luck, and Happy Holidays!
Dave
Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously--HST
Thank you and happy Thanksgiving to you as well!
I seriously doubt that this is a surface stain. It may have gotten INTO the wood. Depending on how deep the leaching chemical has gone, you may or may not be able to remove it by sanding/scrubbing - it may be too deep.
You should carefully read the fine print in the Mapleshade warranty/guaranty. My gut guess is that it doesn't cover chemical damage to the stand.
I know it wouldn't be covered under warranty, just thought there might be a fix other than sanding. It's OK I'll just put my turntable over the stains and leave it at that.
It was only my CD player that caused the stains. The tuner, preamp, amp and power supplies have not caused any stains
Yet another unexpected benefit of analogue over digital:)
Yes!
1. Can you simply flip the shelf upside down? Or, in tandem with that, move it down to a lower position in the rack?
2. Sandpaper...ew. Try a white eraser first (these are usually vinyl or firm rubber). Much less likely to remove the finish. If the stain hasn't permeated beneath the surface, this should work. Work with a light touch and a lot of strokes to keep the friction strictly upon the surface layer. You may want to polish it up a bit afterwards.
If the stain has somehow "bled" past the surface into the interior wood I don't think it comes out, period. Again, flip the shelf if possible.
I can't flip the top over because it's 110 pounds and besides my equipment is all set up.Too much to move.
I have a magic eraser if that's what you mean. I'll give it a try right now. I haven't heard back from Mapleshade, but perhaps they're closed for the week because of the holiday.
If you mean by "magic eraser" the Mr. Clean product I don't think that will work. I know the magic eraser, and it's more of a hard sponge. A white eraser is an inexpensive artist's tool aimed at removing pencil from paper. It has more outright "grip" on the surface you are erasing from. Here's a link...
Thanks for the link,SE.I have a magic eraser here, I tried it but it did not work. I don't wanna buy anything until I hear from Pierre.
I think he's going to tell me the same thing that there's no way to take out the stains without having to sand and I'm not about to do that.
I am happy to hear that you aren't going to sand it. That method sounds way too destructive for a cosmetic blemish that you can work around. Best of luck!
Thanks. At this point now I'm more concerned about getting the top shelf ready for my turntable coming Friday. I also have to refresh my memory how to clean records on my VPI as it's been a long time since I've played any records. I bought a couple of the VPI corkmats,some Disc Dr. wet brushes, cleaner and dry brushes.
I've already watched a few YouTube tutorials on how to clean. Lots of different theories and philosophies!
Reminds me of the used Pass Labs X150 amp I owned many years ago. The top of the 'handles' [or whatever they are] had nicks and marks on them. The solution in this case: swap the left and right handles so they're flipped upside down. The nicks and marks are no longer visible.Not my Pass X150 but you get the idea. Notice the nicks on the right up top? Swap the left and right pieces and the nicks become no longer visible:
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trying any of it is a risk. Either ignore it, cover it up, or research it at a library with woodworking books that might have an article on the SPECIFIC stain and finish involved.
Otherwise you may have to sand the whole surface and face having to put a finish on it. Not very difficult if your are experienced, but it involves a bit of time and patience.
*Quad ESL 57's with regular speaker cloth
Thanks, but no sanding. Too involved.
lightly sand just the marks and see how deep. This is risky as it may require doing the whole surface as you may find 'patches' are always visible when carefully looked at.
I used to live with a wood shop teacher, both he and experience taught me an awful lot.
*Quad ESL 57's with regular speaker cloth
I once had a cap leak inside my teak buffet. It left a 4" diameter pool.
Cleaned it up and didn't see it for years until placing another piece of equipment there.
Put a piece of equipment over the stains and be done. You'll forget they're even there.
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Sorry to hear this and I hope you can get the marks removed. So others can avoid a similar problem, could you let us know the make of cdp that left these marks?
I think you should express your disapproval of them in using material that marks timber. My rack is made of timber uprights and polished black stone (granite or maybe slate) for shelves that doesn't mark.
I have an entry-level Marantz cd 38 player that I bought from an audio store in California about 2000. But the owner (Upscale Audio) made modifications on it to improve the sound.
The isolation feet are original, not upgraded.
I'm sorry for misunderstanding your original post. I thought you were saying that Mapleshade isolation feet made the stains. Now, I see that it was the original Marantz unit which made the stains on your MS rack.So, your complaint should be to Marantz. Apparently, it's their unstable gear foot which is the problem, although they may argue that it's the "combination" of the MS finishing material and the Marantz foot compound.
I'm suddenly reminded of "sticky shed syndrome", which was/is a BIG problem with Ampex recording tapes from back in the 1970s, and then, to rub salt into the wound, Ampex patented a solution to the problem they created.
Your best bet is to go to a professional cabinet maker or wood restorer.
Good luck!
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Well I bought this unit almost 20 years ago from a high-end audio store that upgraded it. The isolation feet are stock.I doubt that I can make any claim against Marantz this late in the game. I'm not gonna touch the top shelf anymore it's just gonna be too much work for me to move everything. It's OK the turntable will cover the stains.
All of my other gear that's been sitting in the same spot for over a year did not leave any stains, just the CD player.
I appreciate everyone's input, thank you!
The turntable will cover the marks?
Yes the turntable will cover the marks, but I'd rather get the marks out if easy enough. It's such a beautiful rack. I want to keep the wood in its original condition. It's a nice cherry finish.
I'll wait till i hear from Pierre, but the 0000 steel wool might be the best bet.
Send Mapleshade a message. Pierre is very quick to answer. He would know best what to do.
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the
most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Mapleshade will know best. And I would avoid putting anything else on there until you fix it (and it's dry/cured).
I'm not going to touch it until I hear from Mapleshade, hopefully tomorrow sometime.
I sent a message to Pierre before I posted here, but I also wanted to get feedback from fellow audiophiles.
I'm sure I'll hear from him in the next day or so.
You can try something like the below in combination with using lemon oil afterwards.
Thanks HighEndWire, I forgot about using steel wool. I might have some 0000 in the garage. I do have some Howard feed and wax which is beeswax and orange oil, but I'm not sure that's the proper product to use for the situation. I also have some lemon furniture polish wipes.
Another photo. My tuner did not leave marks ,only the cdp.
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