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This is absurd!
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The clock's definitely out of my price range, but at "only" $45 I could afford this towel. I'm sure thong bikini chicks would simply flock to any guy who had one of these at the beach.
"Ferrari? Don't need one. I got me a Mac towel!"
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
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all the best,
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I can't compete with the dead (Buck W. 2010)
$45 gets them out the door tomorrow. $50 gets them out the door yesterday (Byrd 2016)
Cowards can't be heroes. (Byrd 2017)
I wouldn't embarrass myself by getting up from a McIntosh towel, pointing impolitely, the way I might from a Taylor Swift terrycloth.
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
Who has the towel hung on the wall behind his system. :)
Edits: 07/01/17
So all I could see was the thumbnail, but I like the concept. Aesthetically, it beats the hell out of egg carton foam for room treatment.
"Suddenly, I'm not half the man I used to be. 'Cause now I'm an amputee" J. Lennon
Another must have for any true Mcintosh fan!
.....if my memory is correct, that Mac contains a pretty exclusive Swiss eta thermocompensated movement. I'm not sure you can find anything else out there that's not in the same price range, if not a lot more.
A 'thermocompensated movement' is just a fancy way of describing a temperature compensated quartz crystal oscillator used as the time base or frequency reference for the clock. These small TCXO modules are pretty cheap. The temperature compensation helps keep them on frequency over a wider range of ambient temperature.However, better accuracy is achieved in typical $25 radio controlled wall clocks that are synchronized to an atomic clock. [United States Time Standard atomic clocks, NIST-F1 and NIST-F2]
A time code signal (modified IRIG-H) derived from the atomic clock is transmitted over the air and received by the radio controlled clock periodically. Many of these clocks sync late at night or in the wee hours of the morning when radio propagation is best. In the USA, these clocks have receivers that operate at 60KHz. The WWVB 60KHz transmitter is operated by NIST and located in Ft. Collins Colorado. Other similar systems are available worldwide and operated by other countries.
We have a few $25 - $45 radio controlled clocks throughout our home and my $300 wrist watch uses the same technology. They are always less than 1 second off or 1 second apart from each other over an entire year or more as they are synchronized nightly.
Can't say the same for the McIntosh clock. It relies solely on it's own internal TCXO which is probably good for no better than about 10 - 15 seconds per year.... AND it costs $1800 !! It's all about those pretty blue meters and the McIntosh name. ;-)
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Abe, you are correct, but find me a timepiece with a low cost eta thermo compensated movement and I'll take back everything I said. Anyone can buy a cheap watch or clock with a high accuracy rc or gps based movement but that's not what high end horology is about.
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Cant tell if you are being serious, but the movement is quartz!
Dead serious. Do some research on thermo compensated quartz movements. They aren't cheap.
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Your right! I stand corrected.
Not sure if that makes this more or less absurd. I am leaning more, as this is one of the most famous hifi manufacturers in the world who has apparently spent development resources on bringing a clock to market.
Yes, but McIntosh is now owned by a conglomerate who , no doubt , wish to "extend the brand". Think of Harley Davidson or Gibson guitars.
So prepare yourself in due course for a McIntosh exclusive male fragrance.
Fine Sounds, a holding company, that controls McIntosh, Audio Research, Sumiko and Wadia. It is owned by Quadrivio SGR a Italian Private Equity firm.
Much cheaper, tells time just as accurately, AND it makes my system sound much better. Can the Mac clock do that? I think not.
"That was some weird shit".- George Bush
For best results, you should also get MD's Teleportation Tweek. As PT Barnum said, "There is a "s.......
Edits: 07/05/17
.....You've compared the sonic attributes of the "clever clock" to the Mac clock? How about a review of them?
Mac doesn't boast their clock will improve the sound of one's stereo system. MD DOES say theirs will. Do you doubt the veracity of MD's statement?
"That was some weird shit".- George Bush
...thus my request for a comparison/veiification from an independent party. Or to put it another way, does a clock whose primary function is showing "time" in a visually unique manner and with no claim of sonic improvement differ sonically from a clock whose (claimed) primary function is improvement of reproduced sound (music)?
Technically the MD clock displays the wrong time. Future time. That's part of its concept of operation. The Clever Little Clock is now in its 4th iteration, the Ultra Signature. The CLC also improves video picture quality. Is that hyperbole?
not the first.
Now is the time.
Not then, not when.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
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Future, now, then, biological, philosophical, mechanical.
What's funny is that we all have (or make) the time for this.
Surreality is.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...is "Now" universal for all observers? Also, isn't biological "now" delayed a few msec while things are processed? IOW, perceived "now" is actually a "then" in absolute terms? And since one observer's processing time does not necessarily = another's, it seems that "now" is not universal for biological observers.
The CLC is set to display time that is well in the future of the local time of the customer wherever he happens to be. At least two hours in the future. Thus, even accounting for daylight saving time the clock will always display time in the future.If time did not exist man would have to invent it.
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"That was some weird shit".- George Bush
It's the pretty blue meters! And the reason most folks are sucked into buying the McIntosh brand in the first place, clock included. ;-)
A few years back, the blue meters were touted as being a "core value" on their website.
As for me, I find them tacky looking. Several years back, HP had a pair of 2301s driving Maggie 3.7s in Room 2. As he would crash early, I often listened by myself late. Fortunately, those had a switch to turn the cyclops eyes off. :)
I wonder how much it will be to replace the glass when it starts to bubble in 30 years.
Does it have the provision to change out the power cable? Had to ask.
What's absurd about it? You could find thousands of clocks far, far more expensive. Is it just because it's connected to a hifi manufacturer? Should they only produce cheap clocks? Should they not produce clocks at all? The only absurdity really is that you are posting about a clock that you don't like the price of on a hifi website.
Are you lost?
...Are you lost? ...
No, but I think you might benefit from a bit of guidance
It is very cool.
Anyone remember the Meridian Ferrari clock radio/cd player at $3K from a few years back?
..."Time to Upgrade"?
I think it's cool ...
For $1800?
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Ha!
I actually have an "atomic clock" that cost me about $50-$75 about eight years ago. It's never off by more than a couple of seconds.
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It synchronizes and corrects itself every day. :)
Compared to the actual Cesium atomic clock in Colorado. As E-Stat said, my clock listens to the real atomic clock, and adjusts itself every day. I think that's pretty amazing.
:)
...than the vast majority of consumer grade WWV corrected clocks. Not that this amounts to anything significant for the average person checking the time.
If you consider that a $20 - $40 radio controlled wall clock can be accurate to within one or two seconds over a several year period, I would say this is pretty amazing for a "consumer grade" clock that can be bought at your local department store.At $1800 the McIntosh clock will not achieve this level of accuracy. Regardless of it's expensive "thermal compensated" Swiss made movement, it's ability to tell accurate time is average at best and no where near the accuracy of that $20 wall clock.
In other words you're paying for the McIntosh name, the pretty blue meters, and whatever art value you see in it. You're not paying for it's performance - which some might argue is generally the case with McIntosh gear.
See my other more detailed comments linked below
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...entirely. Its a lifestyle thing. Its all about style and fashion. Its primary purpose is to be unique and complementary to the current Mac visual aesthetic. Obviously, it should function reasonably well as clock, but microsecond long term accuracy is not its purpose. While $1,800 (US) isn't cheap, in the context of a major system including the room treatments, it's not outrageous IMO. If nothing else, the Mac clock is totally upfront about what it is; what you see is what you get, something a lot of dubious and costly tweako audio accessories can't claim.
Oh, I get the whole "lifestyle"/bling thingy. But, since a radio-controlled "atomic" clock can be had for under a hundred bucks, it's puzzling why McIntosh didn't include that cability in their $1,800 clock. Clearly, a person has to be excessively obsessed with Mac and have money laying around in order to "justify" buying one.
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..."excessively obsessed" is relative and audiophiles inherently have money laying around. ;-)
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Or offer. The price doesn't make it uncool ...
Prices rarely shock me. I live in in area where real estate is over $500 a ft and a drinks can easily cost $15+. This clocks price shocked me!
$399 all day. Even at $999 I am not posting about it, but $1800 for a quartz clock???
Les,
I recently moved out of Coconut Grove and you are correct on both examples, plus traffic!
Regards,
Duane in Clearwater
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