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In Reply to: RE: Good Point! posted by Jonesy on April 14, 2017 at 08:57:23
"Spoke to office auto audio bud on this subject earlier this week. Here's where their competition rules are quite interesting."A judge would sit in the driver's seat and center stage would image in front of them. The trick is to be able to have a second judge in the passenger side and hear the same effect."
This would be impossible seated off to the side in a quality home system, let alone a car system.... The timing of the sound waves from each channel must hit the ears simultaneously......
Besides, how do the judges know what "angle" to be seated at? And since it's such tight quarters, a tall judge would likely perceive things quite different from a short judge..........
I guess "tricks" could help, but it seems like such endeavor would make the sound worse..... No different from using digital room correction, which has never impressed me.
"The killer audio test track had a snare being hit 7 times from left to right. Hit no. 4 would have to appear in front of you whichever seat you sat in."
If it's competition, and that was the criterion, I'd use drivers with narrow response in the "snare drum" region..... No point trying to achieve this for the entire audio range.......
"In car audio they use multiple speakers to achieve this though it is very difficult considering cancellation and other anomalies due to sound wave behaviour."
I think if this were to be achieved, it would otherwise sound horrid..........
"They use various analyzing equipment to help set this up."
Maybe computer models too..... Otherwise the car's interior would look like a war zone......
"I do see however that though car audio enthusiasts have appreciative goals similar to ours, their methods, use of components, and environment is quite different."
I've never heard a competition car system that I thought sounded as good as a decent inexpensive home system. (Or any car system, for that matter..... I think the interior glass reflections might be the big culprit here.) Spectacular, yes. But not close to faithful to a good recording.
Most of those who I knew were into competition car audio were into a VERY limited range of music..... Mostly rap..... And audio test tracks.... (They're interested in Beethoven or the Beatles like I'm interested in basket weaving.) They're into body-crushing bass, and that's about it....... They're not interested in any home system because the bass simply isn't "powerful" enough.
As far as I'm concerned, high-end audio and competition car audio are two totally different hobbies, like being a musician and being a scratch DJ are two totally different hobbies. It would be unfair to even compare the two.
Edits: 04/18/17Follow Ups:
I was incorrect about the 2 judges. It would not be simultaneous.
As for the rest, the SPL group, which represents the majority, and which you are familiar with, are not the group I am referring to.
The fellow at my office was in the SQ group. He does not listen to rap.
If striving for the same goals is two totally different hobbies, fine, I just wanted to point out the similarities in the SQ group for the sake of interest.
Cheers!
Jonesy
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