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In Reply to: RE: I hve never found silver interconnects to be of much value posted by Mick Wolfe on March 04, 2017 at 09:38:50
Silver is a bright metal. Therefore the sound of silver wires must be bright as well. ;-)
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.- Ronald Reagan
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It's only bright until it starts to oxidize, which turns it black, thus producing a much darker sound.
;)
Silver does not oxidise easily.
The tarnish that appears on silver so quickly is silver sulfide and while silver oxide is a conductor silver sulfide is a semi-conductor.
Silver oxide is used as a switch contact for corrosive environments but it is really rather difficult to produce. Simply heating silver in the presence of oxygen doesn't work and silver oxide is produced in a reaction between silver nitrate and alkali hydroxide.
In the end silver cabling is rather pointless since silver is not that much better a conductor than copper. One could just increase the cross section of the copper cable by 5% and there will be no differences.
But I'm sure you knew all this! ;-)
Yes, I do in fact know all this (I am a chemist afterall). That 5% seems to make an audible difference. Changing the crossection is not all there is to cable sound. In fact I have found that for line level signals the thinner the wire and/or ribbon the better the sound and capture of low level information.
Hey Morricab, I was starting to think that you'd fallen off the planet, but then I realized that that would be very hard to do. :)
What do you mean by "low level information"? I'm serious, not being cynical. (For once.)
Anyway, my tinned copper speaker cables are fine, as are my no-name-brand interconnects.
I am always, and rightly so, suspicious of "cable comparisons". Unless there is a VERY controlled methodology, a person CANNOT attribute a difference to a particular type of wire.
:)
Well, I do now.
:)
Polishing the stuff when it starts to tarnish gets to be a real pain in the ass.
When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.- Ronald Reagan
I catch a tad of sarcasm here? In my travels, I've stumbled onto silver wire concoctions that actually sounded mellower than copper ( Soundsilver)....and of course those that fit your description.(Darwin).... and those that sound spot on. ( Shindo ) I'll add ClearDay to that on the cheap.
And as always....YMMV.
I agree that pure solid core silver wire tends to sound mellow, with no intrinsic brightness other than a goodly amount of treble energy, which can reveal other elements within the signal chain that contribute to a perceived brightness in playback. Otherwise, the reputation of silver causing brightness tends to be silver plated copper wire with an unclean sounding top-end as the chief offender, or perhaps a poorly designed/implemented pure solid core silver cable with a tipped up treble characteristic. YMMV
Yes, I would say that in a lot of cases if Silver sounds bright you should look elsewhere in the system instead of shooting the messenger.
Duster, I have to agree for the most part, yet I've found my silver clad Morrow MA 5's to be pretty even handed.....not bright in the least. I just have a problem with someone who declares silver to be no better than copper after sampling one manufacturer's silver IC in his system. I would call that painting with an extremely wide brush. I've got cables(both solid and stranded) that are copper, tinned copper, silver clad copper, silver and last but not least, Graphene Extreme from Cerious Tech. They all can sound very good in the right app, so I'm not jumping on ( or off ) any particular metal's band wagon. Let's just say I'm an equal opportunity cable user.
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