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In Reply to: RE: Audiogon news posted by nickwh on February 01, 2012 at 10:17:46
I noticed that the other day. My buddy runs his sites on dedicated servers which it seems like you can get from Amazon. Figuring out what AWS actually offers is not easy. It looks like it's all visualization. I looked into that a bit when we configured our new server, but didn't see what the advantage would be for us. For ISPs, sure.
-Rod
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I do not believe that AWS itself the problem with Audiogon. Lots of my customers run parts of their business on Cloud services, be it AWS, AT&T, IBM or whatever. The problem is not with the virtualized server(s), it's what you do with them. There are several advantages to running a high traffic site on a service like AWS that hosts directly on a NOC or NAP location.
It is almost certain that these guys had poor execution - poor planning, poor testing (if any) and poor judgement. Glueing old and new code together is a almost always recipe for disaster. And who ever heard of going live to the general public in Beta? Test and test and then test again first is the rule.
Agon definitely should have invested in hiring a company to handle this for them --- development, beta tests, revision, more testing ,,, whatever was needed to make it work, then roll out. It is STILL messy. Sad.
And after you test, test, test.
Watch the error logs when you go live because you'll find plenty that you missed, and fix the broken stuff fast!
I didn't mean to imply that AWS was a problem. It's just hard to figure out exactly what you're getting. My impression is that you can get whatever compute power and memory that you need and have the ability to scale dynamically. In addition, you have nearly unlimited bandwidth for peak traffic hits.
As I mentioned, my buddy uses a similar service though they use dedicated servers rather than virtual ones. He loves it. No hardware to worry about and they backup everything and fix whatever breaks. In fact, he also hosts our image server which offloads our bandwidth.
Implementation, planning and experience are key. I've learned to take lots of time and go slowly though I'm known to get reckless at times. With our new server, I had it up for nearly a month with password protected test domains for testing and we didn't even change any code!
I was discussing this whole Agon upgrade today with a Bored member and wondered why they didn't upgrade the VideoGon site first. It gets far less traffic and is far less important to their cash flow. Since it appears to be a common code base, I would have done my beta there.
I also would have previewed it to the community for feedback.
-Rod
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