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In Reply to: Monster Cable v Monster Vintage, I tried to make some back-channel peace posted by Ray Kimber on February 12, 2005 at 09:05:53:
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Nobody held a gun to your head and forced you to read it.Also, since it was so clearly titled if you have any complaints you have only yourself to blame.
but, as we have seen, anytime someone decides to bash Monster, Ray has to be right there chearleading and playing the poor, helpless victim.What if Paul Barton, or Brian Cheney jumped in and joined along on the many Bose bashing posts? I don't see them whining on some board about how unfair, unethical and aggressive Bose's business practices are. If Ray wants to mend fences or make some "back-channel peace" then good for him. But then let's make it truly "back-channel" and off the boards - and spare us the progress reports.
Dear uw312,You said:
> > ...anytime someone decides to bash Monster, Ray has to be right there chearleading and playing the poor, helpless victim. < <
"anytime" Hardly true, check *just* the threads on the AA, virtually all the MC discussion I have had has been on AA.
"cheerleading" I don't do poms poms, never have.
"poor, helpless victim" Nope, incorrect. Victim's advocate maybe.
You said:
> > how unfair, unethical and aggressive Bose's business practices are < <
Please give some details of how Bose and Monster Cable are either the same or different in regards to "unfair", "unethical", and/or "aggressive". Since Monster Cable's tactics have been compared to Bose's more than once that would be a valid and relevant audio industry related discussion. *IF* Bose is as bad as MC and *IF* someone had reined them in, then maybe MC wouldn't have been operating under tacit approval.
Do you approve of Monster Cable's tactics?
You said:
> > ...let's make it truly "back-channel" and off the boards... < < <
And I would have left it back-channel, if it would have succeeded. It became a relevant post IMO due to the failure caused by Dave Tognotti's phone call.
You said:
> > ...and spare us the progress reports... < <
You are cordially invited to ignore my postings. The posts are read by many who have made no reply posts at all. I have heard from some of these folks and they are grateful for the information and discussion, along with being supportive of my doing so.
Ray
Why are you reading his posts if they're worthless? And if you're not reading them, why get so bent out of shape?It's a hobby.
Isn't it?
Of course, my post is wothless too. Oh, the humanity....
Although, while some people might find the posts interesting, others do take offence. Maybe they should be listed at a different part of the Asylum.
He's trying to damage his competitor by obsessively slinging mud in public.
I see. He told you his motives? Or are you happily risking slander by making claims you have no proof of?I may have missed it. Since you are one who seems to like proof, show me where he wrote that he is purposefully damage his competitor by obsessively slinging mud in public.
If you can, we get a better understanding of him. It wouldn't be pretty. If you can't, we get a better understanding of you. You may have a good point, or you may not. The way you go about things matters....
Most of us can see that Ray is a good guy with no hiden agenda. (Do you know whose donated jacket is up for sale at monstervintage's eBay auction? Rays.)Ray has a warm heart and cares about folks. You, obviously, do not.
ZZZZZzzz...
I wish I had greater power to cause MC serious damage!
Monster is just another faceless corporation, out to maximize profits with no respect of others. What did you expect?
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