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In Reply to: RE: Seriously ? ............................. posted by zacster on February 25, 2021 at 14:24:16
you have been fortunate if you have not been tortured with truncated sample tracks.
Has to be just aobut the most unpleasant listening experience there is.
You pick an album or playlist to stream, and some tracks will abruptly cut off after playing for 30 seconds or so.
No warning, it is ugly.
Has to do with QOBUZ licensing with the music owners.
I emailed support about it, they admitted they get complaints about it, and told me there won't do anything about it.
So if suddenly some tracks you are playing cut off abruptly after 30-60 seconds, now you will know why.
If art interprets our dreams, the computer executes them in the guise of programs!
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does it just occur with Henry Mancini tracks?
that shouldn't be all that unusual
So these are really just short advertisements then? That would annoy the hell out of me.
marc g. - audiophile by day, music lover by night
This has to do with the streaming rights granted by the artist/record company. Qobuz's only other option would be to just remove such tracks, but then that would make it harder to actually buy the download if you wanted to.
I've had Qobuz for a year and a half and it is very rare that I bump into them -- guess my taste in music doesn't line up with those who are limiting their material to 30 second samples. I doubt that I've encountered more than 5 or 10 such tracks since I started with Qobuz, and I listen to a LOT of music/artists I've never heard before in my search for new material.
I guess advertisement, unless they trying to intentionnaly infuriate their customers for some reason.
And the QOBUZ player gives no option to avoid them.
Whatever marketing wonks arranged for that feature in their system should be locked in a room and forced to listen to all truncated sample tracks for a few days.
If art interprets our dreams, the computer executes them in the guise of programs!
You are correct. Those sample tracks are at the behest of the record labels to whom Qobuz is in thrall in order to secure supply of any tracks in the the first place. They have to keep the labels sweet and some labels will try to game the supply system so as to encourage sales instead of streams.
" No warning, it is ugly. "
If you use Qobuz' own downloaded players you will find that the 30 sec sample tracks usually appear in grey text and not black. Qobuz often also place a notice at the top of the screen saying that full streaming rights are not granted.
I hate them too but I try to understand Qobuz' commercial reason for being unable to do much about it.
"We need less, but better" - Dieter Rams
I don't think the greying out was always a feature.
Anyway here is an aggregious current example. And this from a new and highly promoted collection! They hype streaming a collection where half the damn songs are truncated!
They should AT LEAST provide an option in the player to skip the truncations!
If art interprets our dreams, the computer executes them in the guise of programs!
I've encountered songs that won't play, but never truncated tracks. Or if I have I've just assumed it was a technical glitch. I remember I would get them before Qobuz went live in the US.
On your example above I know I've played "Different Drum" many times all the way through.
BTW, are you a Sgt or Lt?
"On your example above I know I've played "Different Drum" many times all the way through."
Not a surprise - different releases will have different licensing agreements.
Also hi-res vs. redbook will likely have different licensing (prices sure are different!) for the exact same recording.
If art interprets our dreams, the computer executes them in the guise of programs!
I never served. I use those handles in honor of one of my favorite novels of all time (and the sequels).
The Forever War by Joe Haldeman.
Not only is it a war story, but it is a love story that traverses many centuries with the same couple (time dilation due to relativistic effects).
If art interprets our dreams, the computer executes them in the guise of programs!
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