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In Reply to: RE: Choice for new DAC: Schiit Gungir Multibit vs. Topping D90 MQA posted by Dawnrazor on January 07, 2021 at 16:46:16
Thanks! Your review of reviews helps confirm what I thought from what I've read. As we always say, it's best to listen to the equipment, but these days it's more difficult than ever and I hate to jerk around the manufacturer/distributor by auditioning and returning it. I like to narrow the field first and you're helping me do it.
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Yeah I think you got the same impressions that I got. Totally get not wanting to return things, but really man that is the game. Companies WANT you to audition their gear. So IMHO don't let that stop you from trying things as long as you can return things.
Maybe it is outside your budget but if not you might want to check out the border patrol dac. I think that has the signature you are looking for and of course in that range is the Ares 2. Also what about the Chord Mojo? Theirs is a unique solution that might be more the sound you are looking for.
Really interested to see what you get!
Cut to razor sounding violins
Thanks for the Border Patrol mention. I didn't know about them. Hi-rez, including 192k, is what got me into streaming. I'm locked into Qobuz hi-rez for another year and the BP doesn't do 192k.
Also, the BP DAC sounds great but I wonder if it could be too much of a good thing. My integrated amp is a Cary SLI-80 Signature. I've tube rolled to NOS tubes which provided more detail than the stock E-H tubes because I found that I wanted a better top end and more detail. I did the same for the DAC and my phono amp for the same reason.
I hate digital glare and edgey sound but with my system I need to ensure I don't make the sound too lush.
My bad. I am stuck with no hires ever. So its a blindspot that people actually listen to hires
Cut to razor sounding violins
I was just comparing CDs with the IFI SPDIF purifier2 to hi-res to some extent. I find that only 24/192 may really be better than CD. Most of the Qobuz hi res I hear is 24/44.1 (which sounds better than CD) or 24/96. But once you re-clock, I may prefer CD quality vs non-reclocked "hi-res".
In other words, I think that the re-clocking of this caliber is more important that the resolution.
Also, I don't listen to delta-sigma DACs, I could never stand them (except for a Macintosh I once heard at a show).
And the idea that NOS DACs are more immune to jitter, I now find to be of low value (they need re-clockers).
I totally agree that the Border Patrol might be exactly what he is looking for.
"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture." ― Thelonious Sphere Monk
Cpwill
"I totally agree that the Border Patrol might be exactly what he is looking for."
Would that be because of the NOS nature of the design?
marc g. - audiophile by day, music lover by night
Yes, it is NOS as are the other DACs I have own and liked, but I am not an engineering, so won't say it is because or only because it has a NOS typology. It also has a tube rectified power supply and was designed by one of the most creative and respected designers in the tube audio world. Exactly what contributes to its sound in what ways and to what degrees is perhaps unknowable. What I can say is that as a music lover first and audio enthusiast second, in my system, I hear what the original poster seems to be looking for.
The system (headphone only). FLAC files on Roon nucleus to Windows 10 PC laptop as Roon endpoint to the Border Patrol DAC SEi via USB to Monolith Liquid Platinum headphone amp to Audeze LCD-X cans. I like it so much, I am tempted to get another one for one of my speaker-based systems.
That's my two cents, given freely and worth what you paid for it.
"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture." ― Thelonious Sphere Monk
Cpwill
Cool man. I have the Liquid Platinum too and music is all flac but way different playback. Have some Monolith M1060c that I modded and made open back and listen balanced on the Platinum. But these days the cans are Ultrasone Edition 11 and Signature Pro which sadly are single ended though the Edition 11 can be run balanced if I can find the connectors to make a cable. So I am running the Platinum single ended...still sounds great.
I may end up with the border patrol at some point so its great to know its a keeper for you with the platinum.
Cut to razor sounding violins
I had a non-over sampling CD player years ago because I thought it sounded so much better. My ideal DAC would have defeatable over-sampling.
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