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In Reply to: RE: Yet he never can seem to measure the width of the case posted by Sordidman on October 21, 2019 at 16:19:46
Because the output of one of the most accurate pieces of professional grade, analog test gear on the planet means nothing?
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""Because the output of one of the most accurate pieces of professional grade, analog test gear on the planet means nothing?""
I wouldn't call his comparative listening skills "professional grade."
And the term "accurate" is so relative that it's meaningless....
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
That Amir mostly only comments about what he thinks he's hearing when he thinks something is actually audible and he thinks he can hear it is perfect if you asked me. I wouldn't have him change a thing about that.
"And the term "accurate" is so relative that it's meaningless...."
Most of the reviews are commentary about how he's reading back results from his test gear. As long as he runs the tests as directed by the manufacturer, keeps the equipment calibrated, etc, the tests are presumably then completely relative to the gears specs as quoted by the manufacturer, ie terms the entire audio industry seems contented to do marketing with but in a much more traceable manner than most audio equipment manufacturer marketing "specs"....
That is kind of like the opposite of "meaningless" in my opinion.
The ONLY value is comparative listening experiences, and testimonials about longevity.
No component is "good" or "bad" outside of context. Even a Meitner sucks when you hook it up to your Sharp BoomBox. Of course, - no one does this.
These are experiences, and the best test of a "better" experience is to actually listen.....
A manufacturers specs are valuable only in a sense of a rough guideline to assist with the relationship of other components in SYSTEM.....
I wonder the last time Amir had more than one piece of high performance audio equipment on his bench?
I also have my doubts, - given the fact that his work amounts to cowardly trolling, - about his measuring gear. AKM's DAC analyzer cost over $30,000, - I am curious if he has anything like that. His measuring tests on John/Alex's LPS-1 was widely regarded as trolling, and simply put, - a joke. Amir's trolling falls right in line with pseudo-science postulated by that other troll, - Archimago.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
"The ONLY value is comparative listening experiences, and testimonials about longevity."
you later supplied a a somewhat believable counter-argument to this statement with the following:
"A manufacturers specs are valuable only in a sense of a rough guideline to assist with the relationship of other components in SYSTEM....."
I say "somewhat" because the only question here is regarding the roughness of the guideline in question. The equipment Amir uses appears to be fairly well specified by it's manufacturer.
That is a nice thing about when reviewers are using a common piece of commercially available test gear we can all download the manuals for and read all about if we want. Not that Amir has controlled for everything in the universe but it sure moves the bar alot higher for us to nit pick at what he's doing.
His measurements mean a quite a bit more than nothing. You said it yourself.
yes, when used by someone who does not even know how to work Windows Media Player or suss out a ground loop.
A Ferrari in the hands of a child is a dangerous thing.
Edits: 10/21/19
It's not as though he is running a calibrated emi lab. There is only so much one can accomplish without spending ultra dollars. But doing as well as possible with the equipment at hand seems a worthwhile conversation...
Amir has seemed open to answering questions about his test jig and methodology on his forum.
I can't recall any blatant intentional seeming hand waving, anyway.
If he is really failing to be diligent in the tests, why not educate him or make suggestions on what he's doing wrong?
What should Amir be doing that he is not already doing in your opinion?
The issues many have with Amir less to do with his technical ability to use the gear, than with his agenda, vigilante attitude, and his incredible over estimation of his skills to interpret the data.
I haven't seen a ton of evidence of much of an agenda than exposing what he's decided is "evil" and "undiscovered talent" in the industry.
The thing that has me wondering is why hasn't he managed to get his hands on any Burl Bombers, or Lavry DAC's etc. Where is the love/hate for the pro market?
He also tests phono preamps but has ironically resisted spending much effort on the many presumably questionable, by his apparent metric of bang for the buck, high priced pieces available in that sector.
I'll give you that he is a bit of a character, probably hard to take for some. What is with the Japanese lady Avatar? If that is, indeed, what that actually is. That one apparently went over my head, I guess.
Some serious whining there, Sr. Andre.
Amir is quite skilled with his analyzer, and works with the manufacturer to help audio designers and manufacturers improve their testing methods. His Agenda is to persuade the audio industry to raise standards and make even better performing audio gear.
How is that a negative attribute?
His analytical skills with are quite good, and a number of respected industry experts participate at ASR.
What are your skills and credentials with respect to audio equipment testing and analysis?
And why do you hide under an umbrella of multiple forum ID's and flail about as a sockpuppet?
Do you still use the handles Fair Hedon/Brinkman Ship/agtp/Ishmael Slapowitz/KeenObserver/Digital Assassin? Or do you need to keep inventing new ones as you display your anger around the audio forum universe?
Thanks for proving my points, Dave VH. Now all can see your true character and agenda.
And if anyone is taken in by Dave VH and his replies, understand that he is employing the dishonest common politician tactic known as a red herring. He does this often, but this most recent reply of his is a prime example. He'll fit in well at ASR.
P.S. I am not Andre, nor do I know who Dave VH is referring to. I shouldn't have to make this disclaimer, but feel that Dave will continue with this particular red herring until his diversion is successful. Please be aware of what Dave VH is engaged in here. Again, it is a common dirty politician trick in order to divert attention and raise doubt against critics.
Interesting tactic, Andre. Perhaps that isn't your real name - just another "pseudonym" that you use.
The again, you end all of this speculation, be a man, and identify yourself.
Why do you hide behind multiple pseudonyms?
And a keyboard in the hands of a sockpuppet is quite annoying...
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