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In Reply to: RE: Was it not "Bill" Gaetz' job not to be surprised by Apple?... posted by srjit on October 20, 2019 at 21:18:53
My, my, my. More whining and lashing out desperately with unfounded personal insults by an anonymous AudioAsylum inmate who registered yesterday - October 20. (I carefully checked the date this time.)
Those who know me - in person and online - know that I am honest and forthright, and dislike bullschiit. Although ASR is owned and run by Amirm, it hosts an incredible collection of intelligent, educated and rational participants from around the globe. Although ASR is a relatively young internet audio forum, is already very popular and web traffic - the number of visits to the site - is increasing as its popularity grows steadily. Many people like the atmosphere of honesty and the encouragement of transparency in business and advertising shared by the owner and the regular participants at ASR.
Those of us who participate regularly there appreciate all of the hard work Amir does to test audio gear, and the way he not only praises those who offer products with excellent design and engineering, and criticizes those who don't - and won't. People who come to ASR to defend poorly designed and manufactured audio gear are met first with reason, and later criticism and ridicule if they persist in defending shoddy design, workmanship and lousy performance. We (the regular participants at ASR) feel good when companies like Schiit acknowledge issues and address them. Schiit products that are well made and perform as they should are lauded. Amir demonstrates that he certainly does not want to "destroy" any company, but would rather "hold their feet to the fire" and encourage them to improve their engineering efforts and perhaps become even more successful.
I have absolutely no interest in moderating any internet forum, and as a voluntary participant at that forum, I am a peer to Amir and the many science-minded and audio technology professionals who visit ASR. Even though some of the visitors there are internationally-known and respected pro- and home-audio professionals, we all participate in discussions as equals, and give respect to those persons have demonstrated technical expertise and shared it with us.
When you say "You actually went to him and bragged about your posts here? "Look at me, Amir, I'm a good boy! I will be loyal, dedicated and unquestioning in defending you." you are displaying a great deal of ignorance about human nature and interactions. Just like here at the Asylum, regular participants bond as a community of people with common interests. Many of the ASR regulars are knowledgeable about psychology and human nature, and find the frantic antics of the "Amir-haters" to be amusing and worthy of ridicule.
I have nothing against AudioAsylum.com. I enjoyed my years here and hope that the Asylum's unique collection of participants including many DIY'ers and "subjectivist" audiophiles will continue to serve that audience. Like most regular participants at ASR, I feel that if people want to fool themselves with sighted texts only, and wax eloquently using their unique collection of flowery subjective terms - go for it. However, false claims or the promotion of unverifiable performance characteristics, will lead to becoming a subject of ridicule if you cannot support your claims with hard evidence.
I absolutely enjoyed my years with SET amps, horn speakers and other esoteric audio components that would likely measure quite poorly - but I never claimed that those systems were "accurate" or "transparent." And I still might get another single-ended amp from a Chinese company - Meixing Mingda - that is endorsed by Polish tube guru Lukasz Fikus Lampizator. Don't feel embarrassed if audio gear you like doesn't measure well - just go for what you like and be honest about it. That attitude is a core value at ASR.
Bottom line - if Amir and the participants at ASR criticize products from one of your favorite audio companies, you should, rather then engaging in destructive campaigns of personal attacks, encourage those companies or persons to address the technical issues raised by rigorous and accurate testing and measurements. Yes, there may be debate about some testing methods or results, but you can expect differences to be settled by further testing of communication with other certified experts. That's the nice thing about science - it is self-correcting.
Like some other companies who have done so recently, your favored companies might to be able to improve their reputation, and likely gain new customers. And that is what the ASR'ers really like to see.
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My goodness. A 2000 word lecture. Thanks professor.Where you can't defend is engaging in product evaluation via test equipment with an agenda, wearing a white hat as a self crowned consumer advocate, where you have no qualifications what so ever to do so.
You may or may not know that for years Amir tore down and panned gear via web photos with out ever hearing, touching, seeing that equipment. That stakes a staggering amount of arrogance. He was constantly trying to show he was smarter than everybody else.
Couple that with a serious narcissistic streak (as well as pathological liar), and the propensity to revise history, shows why no company with any common sense would have him within 1000 miles of their stuff.
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I am a retired buy with lots of time to counter b.s. and personal attacks - how it that bad? And it's not a lecture - it's part of a discussion - are their particular points I made that you disagree with?
It should be obvious to anyone with the ability to read and comprehend, and a desire seek truth, that Amir's "agenda" is to expose shoddy design and engineering, and he clearly - and quite often - states that he encourages companies and engineers to do their work to higher standards so everyone can benefit. And he has demonstrated his "qualification" to do such evaluations many times, and has an excellent technical background to support his efforts.
That Amir has negative and destructive agenda is a figment of your imagination, apparently after one of your favorite oxen was gored. You have no evidence to back it up.
Many aspects of industrial design and engineering can indeed be evaluated and criticized from photographs. How can you not comprehend that?
Just out of curiosity, what are your qualifications with regards to psychology, audio hardware engineering and manufacturing methods?
Why get so upset about a guy who likes women wearing lamp shade hats? :)
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