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In Reply to: RE: Audio critics should publish their hearing tests posted by RGA on March 23, 2017 at 19:39:29
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Well it is a two way street - I have been offered free equipment and turned it down because the price was too high.
I don't want to have to put something in my equipment list or stand by unless I actually stand by it.
I am not going to buy something only because I could get a discount on the item. 4everyoung below indicated that VPI didn't want to give out more "free" turntables. Which suggests that a lot of reviewers got free ones.
And it probably worked given how big VPI is in the field - some manufacturers view giving stuff away as a cost of marketing. In Hong Kong they view it as a bribe.
If the thing is being offered for free - it probably isn't worth having.
Accommodation pricing is a courtesy offered to the entire industry, not just reviewers. For example, an employee of a hifi store may qualify or a tech at a stereo repair shop. It's still up to the manufacturer and they set the price. And they can and do say no.
Audio Research refused to sell me a preamp I was interned in buying. They didn't really have a reason. I have never reviewed or owned any ARC products. Maybe because I was writing for TAS at the time and there was some kind of issue with them that I was unaware of?
And VPI said no because they said they couldn't afford to give away any more free turntables to reviewers. I wanted to buy a turntable not get one free. But I'd love to know who did get all the free VPI turntables. Stand up and be counted.
Both of these instances happened a long time ago so things may have changed now. I never called either back again. The point here being that accommodation pricing is not a guarantee, at least not in my experience. I did purchase a few review samples such as my Coincident speakers and Atma-Sphere preamp and am still happy with both after at least a decade of use.
Please forgive any typos. I haven't had my morning coffee yet.
Sue
nt
...such that you couldn't walk into a dealer and purchase whatever it is you wanted OR is it that they wouldn't provide you with factory direct, industry accommodation pricing? Can't see how a dealer could refuse to sell you something unless you really pissed them off in some manner. Not clear from what you wrote.
She wrote: "I wanted to buy a turntable not get one free."
If you don't become the ocean, you'll be seasick everyday ...
- Leonard Cohen
...was the two companies refused to sell equipment to her at industry accommodation pricing.
(new paragraph)
"Audio Research refused to sell me a preamp I was interned in buying. They didn't really have a reason. I have never reviewed or owned any ARC products. Maybe because I was writing for TAS at the time and there was some kind of issue with them that I was unaware of?
And VPI said no because they said they couldn't afford to give away any more free turntables to reviewers. I wanted to buy a turntable not get one free. But I'd love to know who did get all the free VPI turntables. Stand up and be counted."
(new paragraph)
In neither paragraph did she state that she was seeking accommodation pricing. Accommodation pricing might have been implied but not clearly...to me at least.
I mention accommodation pricing in both.
Have a great day1
Sue
...had you stated instead:"Audio Research refused to sell me at at accomodation pricing a preamp I was interned in buying. They didn't really have a reason. I have never reviewed or owned any ARC products. Maybe because I was writing for TAS at the time and there was some kind of issue with them that I was unaware of?" etc.
there would be no doubt what was going on.
I guess I'm grammar and style dense.
Edits: 03/25/17
Who pissed in your Wheaties this morning? lol
I'd love to stay and chat but I'm having a rummage sale in the rain today and need to bring all my old gear back inside.
Have a nice day.
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