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In Reply to: RE: 15 vs 20 amp power cable posted by AudioDwebe on August 05, 2020 at 10:32:23
Absolutely you can as long as the connector on the device end isn't one of those funking 20 amp IEC's.Like this one ...
Edits: 08/05/20Follow Ups:
I think the OP means whether or not he can use a power cord with a 20A IEC connector plugged into a 15A AC outlet. But the real question is whether or not a device with a 20A IEC inlet should be plugged into a 15A circuit. The type of AC outlet does not matter, the design is just a safety precaution, but a device that draws more than 15A should not be plugged into a 15A circuit, since that's the key aspect of the safety precaution. So another question should be if the device in question actually draws more than 15A, since I don't think my AC delivery system gets anywhere near 15A even when playing music at high-volume levels.
What's got me confused is my older, discontinued PurePower 2000 says in the specs for electrical input IEC 320-C19 Input receptacle (20 amp); however, I've just got it plugged into the wall which I'm pretty sure is 15A output. It does use the iec connector.
It seems to be working fine without issues.
What, if any, real-world difference does the outlet power make, as I can't imagine owners of the PP 2000 all having 20A outlets?
Thank you.
"Man, that mouse is Awesome." - Kaemon (referring to Jerry, of Tom and Jerry fame)
Again, the amperage of the circuit is what's important. You can safely use a 15A outlet for both 15A and 20A circuits. You likely do have your AC delivery connected to a 15A circuit, without issues. I recommend installing the Oyaide R1 as planned at the wall, and choose a high-performance power cord with a 15A AC plug and 20A IEC connector to feed your AC delivery system. You have a healthy budget for the upgrade project, AudioDwebe. Are you willing/able to terminate a bulk power cable with AC connectors?
"You can safely use a 15A outlet for both 15A and 20A circuits." Sure about that? You can safely use a 20A outlet for both 15a and 20A circuits. I myself wouldn't want to put 20A through a device rated for 15A. It's likely moot given the amount of current stereos use but as a general rule it's not moot.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
Edits: 08/15/20
Keep in mind there are no electrical benefits due to the ratings of a 20A AC outlet vs. a 15A AC outlet. The only difference is the shape of a slot for a prong of a 20A AC plug to fit into. A 20A AC plug features one "sideways" prong (horizontal orientation) so it cannot fit into a 15A AC outlet with only two vertical slots. It's a safety precaution so a 20A device does not try to draw more current than a 15A circuit is intended to provide.
15a or 20a outlet
Appliances, such as microwaves, often have 20-amp plugs and must be plugged into a 20-amp outlet. ... A 15-amp circuit is usually served by 14-gauge wire and is protected by a 15-amp circuit breaker or fuse. A 20-amp circuit, protected by a 20-amp breaker or fuse, must be served by 12-gauge or 10-gauge wire.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
There's no reason to post that information in regards to the specific topic in question. The factor that is important to consider is not to plug a device that draws more than 15A into a 15A circuit. The shape of a 20A AC plug is the safety precaution that folks must follow, since it can only fit into a 20A AC outlet which is installed at the wall for a 20A circuit. Folks who commonly install an Audio Grade 20A AC outlet for a 15A circuit should be well aware that a 20A device can pose a hazard, so a 20A device that draws more than 15A should always be plugged into a 20A circuit.
'mute given the amount of current stereos use but as a general rule it's not mute'
are you okay? ... 'moot' maybe?
regards,
I'm fine rv and will remain neither mute or moot unless compelled. Thanks for asking.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
good! you're posting frequency fell off
almost as if you had a real life or something
regards,
Muting my audio system tends to provide a blacker background while listening to the coffee maker suck water out of its tank in the morning.
I reckon it's one of the most satisfying auditory experiences during our days in lockdown. That and popping the cap on a good microbrew, rivervalley817.
Cheers, Duster
;)
I suppose it depends on how the coffee beans are grounded
er, ground
regards,
I have no issues with making my own cables.
What do you recommend?
"Man, that mouse is Awesome." - Kaemon (referring to Jerry, of Tom and Jerry fame)
Acoustic Revive Power Standard tripleC 8800 bulk power cord terminated with gold-plated copper Viborg VM503G AC plug and gold-plated copper Viborg VF523G 20A IEC connector would be an outstanding option for a DIY power cord project for less than $250. I use the 8800 terminated with gold Oyaide 079 AC connectors as the power cord for the power distribution of my computer workstation system and think very highly of it. I'm certain it would be an excellent match for the Oyaide R1 AC outlet and your AC delivery system.
The Acoustic Revive bulk power cord can be purchased directly from Japan via eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Acoustic-Revive-POWER-STANDARD-tripleC8800-2m-2meter-Cable-From-JP/172450823418
The way to purchase the particular combination of Viborg AC connectors is via AliExpress from a dependable seller who sells the 15A AC plug and 20A IEC connector separately, since there are no sources that sell them as a set:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000570944326.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/934531229.html
I'll look into making this.
I wish stuff from AliExpress arrived sooner than the damn near a month or so ir's taken each time I've made a purchase.
Thanks, again.
"Man, that mouse is Awesome." - Kaemon (referring to Jerry, of Tom and Jerry fame)
I ordered that Viborg 503 gold plated cu male plug on Aug 5 and it has been in the USA for a couple of days now. Much faster than I expected. Hope it sounds good. The plating on the copper is first silver and then gold. I suspect this is a better sounding plug that others that use nickel on top of copper before the gold.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
The Viborg VM503G sounds very good, indeed. The only multi-plated AC connector with a nickel substrate is made by Wattgate, with a brass base metal. The Viborg VM503G with a copper base metal, and a silver substrate under the gold plating does no harm to my ear. In my experience, it sounds like the unplated copper Viborg AC connectors, but a bit more smooth and laid-back. Not too lush sounding, which is a good thing.
The SonarQuest gold plated copper are first plated with nickel I am told. That's why I decided to go with the Viborg 503.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Alfred E. Neuman
Perhaps SonarQuest is copying Wattgate.
I hear you, AudioDwebe. I consider any purchase from China, either through eBay, AliExpress, and even many Chinese sellers on Amazon.com to be special order purchases. Either the low-price is so good I'm willing to wait for it, or there is no other way to purchase an item. Unless DHL is involved in the shipment, everybody should exercise patience when buying directly from China.
Cheers, Duster
On second thought, I think you're right. .
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