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I was cleaning out my "cable closet" the other day and ran across an original pair of anticable speaker wire. Have things ever changed since then. And has the price ever gone up. I think I paid about $20 for the 6'.pair.
Does anyone have an opinion on how the original anticable compares to current? I might just give these away if they are still worth anything. I never liked how rigid they are to work with.
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The main difference between the original A/Cs and the new version is the newer version's are Cryoed and you can get the newer version in double run .. shotgun gun style ... shotgunning or double running each leg each of the conductor reduces the effective gauge from 12 gauge to 9 gauge which lowers the conductors resistance ... a good thing in speaker cable
Cryoing makes little to no sense as both the original and the newer versions are both OCC continuous cast conductors ... in a OCC type conductor there are no boundaries between the crystals to present a resistance to the signal flow ... as the OCC is just one long continuous boundary less crystal with no space between crystals for gases from manufacturing to build up and present a resistance to the flow of the signal also
When a signal travels down a convention conductor it has to jump the distance between the crystalline boundary structures and meets with resistance ... also gases from the manufacturing process accumulate in these voids also causing resistance ...cryoing displaces the accumulated gases from manufacturing and reduces the resistance but in a OCC type conductor there are no crystalline boundaries or accumulated gases from the manufacturing process to dispel
Cryoing OCC continuous cast conductors in any type of cable is ... "Pure Kafka"... and all marketing hype ... there are no gases from manufacturing to present a resistance to flow in the voids between the crystals ... because there are no crystalline boundaries gaps ... it's one long drawn grain crystal
I'm sure you remember in BC (Before Cable) ... ;-) ... silver wire was sonic-ally preferred to copper wire because silver wire had a much longer grain structure with far fewer boundaries gaps for the signal to jump and meet with resistance ... Audioquest was all about this long grain silver structure many years ago
Most don't realize that ACs are premium OCC continuous cast wire as the perception is ... it's cheap magnetic wire
The biggest down side to the AC speaker cables is their poor low quality terminations that degrade their performance and why many audiophiles are not pleased or enamored with these cables ... just cut the ends off .. scrape off some of the insulation and go bare wire
Anticables are not OCC just OFC. He claims that his newer wires have "reduced dislocation density" - in other words, fewer crystal boundaries.
But it's not and never has been OCC. (I was selling these locally more than 10 years ago and know Paul)
Great idea cutting off the ends. Those spade connectors really are cheap. I've got a pair of Mapleshade speaker cable with bare wire ends. I'll see how they compare. Better than putting those anticables out on the curb :-)
Yo 4ever, Others will disagree and I can't say that I've have done this specific AB test with speaker wire but from my general experience less crap in the signal path the better for the most part, so I would think no connector would sound better. It would be nice if you listened both ways and gave your opinion. No real need to loop the wire end in most cases, I would think. Another opinion I'd like to get from your golden ears is, at the very least, a comparison of instrument body and overall size of the musical presentation between the anti cables and the pea shooter cables. Also a review of the bass performance. I await with baited breath, what ever that means. Tweekie
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Those "pea shooters" sound pretty darn nice using them on the old Yamaha driving my Coincident speakers. I could almost give up tubes. Almost. I'd have a tough time giving up those Russian beauties. I'm addicted to just looking at them :-)
I'm thinking about calling Paul Speltz before I do any snipping on the anticables. Might not be a fair comparison otherwise. Paul could advise me on what could happen removing the spade connectors.
It seems to me that the fare comparison would be to hear both sets without ends. If you listen to the AC with and without connectors you can learn something. All you have to do is un solder them and maybe cut the soldered part of the wire and scrape the end bare. Just solder them back on if you want. I'll advise you as to what would happen if you remove the spade connectors. The wire will sound better, or not? The world will still go round and round, until ??
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12 gauge solid core copper wire is a beast to curl/loop and properly secure in even beefy speaker/amp connectors, plus doing so distorts the crap out of the metal.
I use bare ends, but my speaker wire is a single run of 26 gauge solid core copper.
In the past I have found anything larger than 22 gauge (solid core) to be problematic as far as getting a decent connection with typical binding posts.
It would be fun (for me) to see an informal review of the cables in whatever system you try/re-try them in as the original AntiCables are kind of a blast from the past.
There may be some unrealized virtue to the very thin dielectric used on the Anti Cables ... energy is store in a cable's dielectric and is released out of phase back into the signal path as distortion .. it seems this limits the cables ability to pass the higher frequencies as cables are really low pass filters that tend to attenuate high frequencies anyway
It appears from this article that cables can consume the high frequencies or limit the passing of the high frequencies as the distortion caused by the reflected energy from the dielectric can limit the passing of the higher frequencies through the cable
As the Anti Cable have an ultra thin dielectric they store and reflect the least amount of energy in the form of distortion ..so they can pass higher frequencies were other heavily dielectric-ed cable don't
Give the link a quick read ... http://ww2.mitcables.com/pdf/wp101.pdf
Just kidding!
After Valin-gate, I know better than to ever give away or sell cables I didn't pay for :-)
I bought these cables shortly after (sorry, can't remember his name) started making them. I actually drove to his house in Minnesota to pick them up in person.
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