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In Reply to: RE: TEO audio gc interconnects posted by slapshot on May 13, 2017 at 14:55:11
Slapshot....that's a pretty good assessment of the GC's overall. There seems to be a small setback in performance in the 20-30 hour range, but they snap back into focus just fine beyond that point. The "setback" mentioned takes them to the level of a very good IC as opposed to an exceptional IC. Things return to exceptional status probably midway thru the stated 100 hour breakin period. Take this as my experience, but not necessarily what anyone else might find to be the case.
In regard to those who inquired as to what IC's they replaced, in my case Morrow MA5 with silver Eichmann's and Shindo. Both were used/auditioned between pre-amp and amp with the GC's winning the day in that slot.
As far as speaker cables are concerned, unless TEO introduces a GC version, their speaker cables are simply out of reach for me financially. With that said, I have two friends that claim excellent synergy when combining the TEO GC's with Cerious Tech Graphene Extreme speaker cables. They're not particularly cheap either, but far more reachable at around $650 for an 8' pair.
Follow Ups:
I am in the midst of the temporary setback right now, still waiting for the ICs to re-blossom. I'm catching glimmers of their peak performance, but it is indeed not much to crow about right now.
It was good to have a heads-up about this brief intermission in performance, Mick, or I might have wondered whether I made the right choice. I must be at about 35 - 40 hours.
I should be fully enjoying them shortly, I would anticipate... I would hope... Please, please come back to me soon, TEOs...
axolotl
Yeah, I hear what you're saying. That lull had me scared as well. I think I even resorted to the dreaded "put the CDP on repeat" for a day to accelerate the process. BTW, TEO specifies no cable burn-in devices should be used. Then I just listened a bit louder than I normally do for a couple of days. That's when I noticed how well they sort thru complexities and stay composed. Hang in there and keep us posted.
It's back. The magic is back.Happy dance.
axolotl
Edits: 06/03/17
That's great to hear. Also confirms the minor dip in performance I heard as well. Much like you, everything is hitting on all cylinders now.
Yes, I would agree with your assessment. I find them to be very clear and natural, yet again.I think they do what they are supposed to do extremely well, even with intentional distortion within the performance (i.e., distorted electric guitars and vocals). I've listened to some post-punk, and I infer that I can hear behind and beyond the production back to the performance.
Of course, this may be a purely subjective impression, and OMMV.
axolotl
Edits: 06/04/17
We're hearing the same things in this regard. I'll just say they have the ability to "sort" musical passages with less confusion while adding a nice sense of ease. Simply sounds like the signal is less impeded. Yes, and it's always safer to say "YMMV". One size rarely if ever fits all.
I knew somebody else would say it better than I could.
I am actively seeking out piano, violin, and guitar music these days.
By the way, "The Gloaming" is a great CD, with "Doveman" Thomas Bartlett on piano. [YMMV, in that not everybody likes the same music.]
axolotl
Someone - I believe it was you, Mick - mentioned that anything phono-related might not be the place for the GC ICs, since they are not shielded.
Would anyone care to opine as to whether they might work from phono preamp to preamp? Is shielding essential in this application?
axolotl
I think you'll be fine from phono stage to line preamp. I probably should have said...in my experience, shielded cables have always been necessary from the turntable to the phono stage or SUT. In the case of an SUT, yes, shielded again from SUT to phono stage. When leaving the phono stage, however, you should be good to go with an unshielded design.
Thank you, Mick. I appreciate your kind response.
axolotl
I just purchased another pair, this time the one meter length, for the job above.I'm happy as a clam.
axolotl
Edits: 07/01/17
I'm debating a second pair myself.( DAC to pre-amp) Congrats.
Since I downsized my system, I only need one pair between the SACD player and the Integrated amp. :) Now had mine in about two months--absolutely no complaints. A very good, final upgrade.
Coolness. :)
I was all-set to audition the new IC in its place in the final section of the phono stage.
Alas, my LP-12 will spin no more. Time to upgrade the original motor supply.
Fortunately, I have a spare DD TT (Technics SL-1500 Mk2) to bring into play, literally. One's gotta do what one's gotta do.
axolotl
Good to know, Mick. I had considered the Morrow MA5s to replace my old interconnects; glad I went with the TEO ones instead. And I can't afford the TEO speaker cables either; especially since I need about 15' for each speaker.
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