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In Reply to: RE: Ayon Audio posted by The Dill on May 19, 2021 at 05:18:10
nowadays it's difficult to verify this from a claim of "Made", I mean what does that mean? Assembled, designed, conceived? Designed in Austria using parts made in China and then assembled in Austria?
Anybody, how can you really tell?
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Most all audio parts are made in China.
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most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
Well if you want products where most of the parts are made in-house or in a first-world democratic country then you should be looking at Audio Note.With Audio Note the "guts" of their products are mostly made in-house - they're not buying caps and resistors and transformers from the likes of China.
The speakers are hand-made in Austria at a Stream powered facility and materials are sustainable - woofers are made from Hemp. Electronics are all made in the UK and Europe - including the internal parts. They make their own transformers, capacitors, resistors, boards, valve bases are made in house from panzerholtz, their own silver solder.
And people desire this stuff like they desire the best swiss watches because it's not built in China. So when I sell my Audio Note OTO (purchased in 2003) I can sell it for $500 more than I paid for it precisely because the buyer knows they are buying something of quality. Had I bought a Chinese amplifier from the competition and tried selling it today (assuming I could sell it or the Chinese outfit was even still in business or the amp hadn't caught on fire - I'd lose $1500.
I'm not down on China - they make some nice stuff but it's all copies - there is no good original sound coming from China. Line Magnetic copies Western Electric and that's cool because then at least Western Electric lives on and it was great stuff so at least LM copies the good stuff. Cayin who makes the transformers for LM and Prima Luna among others also makes some good stuff but doesn't sell the best products outside of China and Hong Kong. Their flagship integrated is superb - only 249 made for the world market. At $5,000US I was tempted to buy it. But it doesn't sound better than the AN Cobra or OTO for less money. Much less in ten years when I get all my money back versus the $1500 I might get for the Cayin - assuming it still works.
As for AN, here is a factory tour. Andy Whittle is a speaker designer who now heads up Rogers Loudspeakers and still works at Audio Note part-time. He is the LS 3/5a guru and designed my little AN AX Two speakers. He runs the tour.
Edits: 05/22/21
and now people are adjusting to having power supply caps changed after 2-5 years or so. Other parts....
I have a working JBL 6010 SS pwr amp made in the 60's with all original parts for a backyard system and it still works with all original parts exposed to 20f winter and 100f+ summer temps. Even the VU meter.
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