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In Reply to: RE: Thorens td 145 mk ii with Ortofon VMS 20 EO mkii posted by galcsongor@gmail.com on June 23, 2017 at 15:46:47:
Thorens and Rega are much better than any 12 series Dual.
I used a 1229Q / Empire 2000 EIII combo for many years. Good but not the best at pulling detail from LPs. Mechanism seems complex, but it is surprisingly robust and reliable. The current appeal has a lot to do with nostalgia for what one could not afford back in the day, or trying to recreate what one had back in the day. Absolute sonic quality may not be as important. The 1229 was considered the top of line of Dual idler TT.
I changed to a direct drive Dual 721Q / Shure v15-III combo, it sounded better in some ways and worse in others. Quieter background and better low level detail retrieval, but I could hear traces of "cogging".
I swapped it for a Thorens TD318 / Stanton 881s combo (straight swap !). Night and day difference. Quieter background, deeper bass, cleaner midrange and treble. Much better detail retrieval, I could hear ambiance and air around musicians.
Changed to a AR ES-1 / Shure V15-Vmr combo that was better still in all areas.
I used a Rega P2 / Signet combo for awhile and liked it, but not enough to replace the AR. It excelled at clarity, but soundstage seemed smaller overall in comparison.
In your situation, I would try to listen to both. The Rega at $350 leaves more room for improvement, but the Thorens will be quite good as well. Leave the Dual for someone else unless you want to assemble a vintage system.
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