RE: Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used...

Posted by jazzthusiast (A) on May 29, 2012 at 16:28:59

In Reply to: Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used... posted by carvinman on May 28, 2012 at 13:26:36:

"Distortion on the horns"...sounds like groove wear, except that wouldn't/shouldn't be happening on new vinyl. It could also be distortion due to mistracking b/c of set-up problems. I've got 600+ jazz albums, the vast majority used, and the vast majority are pleasing to listen to, and I'm a fairly picky listener.

I've also heard an MH 2.2, my son had one years ago, and I have a 2M Red. I thought the 'table was a pleasant entry level table that did a decent enough job of capturing the analogue/vinyl majic, and my only complaint about the 2M Red is a tendency to sound a bit grainy & edgy, but no real complaints about distortion. I'd try revisiting set-up with the help of vinyl enthusiast friend if handy.

Some ideas:
1. I gave up on sight-line type protractors b/c I didn't feel certain I was dead-on accurate lining it up sight-line with tonearm pivot pillar. I prefer the arc type protractor where you can get stylus overhang dead-on by using the arc, then adjust cart alignment using null pt grids. You can print one free using Conrad Hoffman's Cartridge Alignment Template Generator. Just plug in your spindle to pivot distance (212mm on your 2.2) and select IEC for inner/outer groove metrics. The default alignment on the CH template is Lofgren A (Baerwald), same as your geodisc.

2. You said you fooled with VTF, but what setting are you using? My 2m Red liked the middle, 1.8g, of mfr recommeded range 1.6-2.0g. I'd double check your tonearm set up. Remove antiskate weight/fishing line, then back off counter weight until tonearm floats freely parallel to platter, reset scale to zero, and adjust VTF to 18. (Online manual says no decimal place is on your scale, so 18 = 1.8g). Replace antiskate weight.

3. VTA should be OK enough when stylus is lowered on to record and the tonearm is parallel to record surface.

4. Azimuth should be OK if while playing a record and facing the front of the cart the stylus makes a straight line with its reflection on the record surface, not listing left or right.

5. Make sure TT is level.

I hope this helps.

Jim
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Topic - Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used... - carvinman 13:26:36 05/28/12 (23)

tonearm and cartridge XXXXX - cpielock@eaglebrook.org 20:20:22 05/29/12 (0)

RE: Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used... - jazzthusiast 16:28:59 05/29/12 (0)

RE: Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used... - Lew 08:17:26 05/29/12 (0)

Playing rock albums doesn't stress much with TT playback, - Dan_ed 04:03:17 05/29/12 (0)

70 records is not that many - jbcortes 23:01:25 05/28/12 (0)

RE: Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used... - learsfool 21:32:36 05/28/12 (12)

However, there are also alot of really crappy jazz records out there. - richardl 11:24:56 06/01/12 (0)

RE: Or, dare I write it, the OPs ears.... - amioutaline? 07:15:36 05/29/12 (0)

Blue Note - elix 03:15:22 05/29/12 (0)

RE: Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used... - WOStantonCS100 22:17:21 05/28/12 (8)

RE: Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used... - learsfool 19:13:17 05/29/12 (0)

I didn't detect any passive-aggression in his post. - soundnut 06:18:56 05/29/12 (4)

RE: I didn't detect any passive-aggression in his post. - WOStantonCS100 11:30:07 05/29/12 (0)

RE: I didn't detect any passive-aggression in his post. - WOStantonCS100 11:22:22 05/29/12 (2)

RE: I didn't detect any passive-aggression in his post. - soundnut 17:15:02 05/29/12 (1)

RE: I didn't detect any passive-aggression in his post. - WOStantonCS100 21:41:31 05/29/12 (0)

RE: Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used... - jbcortes 23:53:45 05/28/12 (1)

RE: Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used... - WOStantonCS100 00:51:05 05/29/12 (0)

RE: Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used... - WOStantonCS100 18:39:32 05/28/12 (0)

most jazz I have plays better than rock or classical... - gkargreen 18:03:22 05/28/12 (0)

You turntable/cartridge is not up to the job.... - vinyl1 15:27:02 05/28/12 (0)

RE: Problems with jazz vinyl, new and used... - Biff 14:49:16 05/28/12 (0)

First thing I would do is have a fellow vinyl freak.. - nocoastjazz@gmail.com 13:37:04 05/28/12 (0)

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