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In Reply to: Re: Musical Realism = 320,000 Gauss! Get real - Get horns. posted by Tom Brennan on August 4, 2001 at 02:24:34:
I like this post. I guess some like it big. I agree with the visual overphasis thing. However, there're a few things...First, the room is the most important aspect. I think you guys take for granted of having a big listenting room. I dont know if putting a 15'' woofer per side, into a NYC size apartment will work at all.
Second, amplified music is not possible to reproduce absolute realism as its a lossy process. Therefore, realism is a cake that noone can whole have. What it is depends on which slide you choose. I can't say that "hair-trigger dynamics" with low distortion ain't real. I also know that superb dynamic range, low distorition, not necessarily hair-triggeringly loud, timberly accurate, and all those juicy stuff are also very very real. I don't think that drivers like Lowther are great because they have low distortion at extreme loudness. Though this could be a consequence, I think they're great because they have superb clarity and low distortion at low volume. If Diana Krall is in my listening room (many would reject this idea completely though), I wouldn't want her to scream as loudly as she could. I would rather have her be more intimate, controlled, sound nice, not raise neighbor's curiosity.
This leads to "You are there" vs "They are here". I don't think "They are here" is a function of loudness, but rather of speaker AND (more importantly) amplifier quality and characterisitcs, given others being equal. For example, plug a big bad SS amp into a good Fostex 208 design, you lose the "They are here". Plug a good SET amp into a good Fostex 108, which is less efficient obviously, all the sudden the musicians move into your small listening room. You can have superb dynamic range and low distortion with a great but less-efficient driver. Just move closer to the speaker, move into a small room. At an extreme, you can even have extremely low SPL, but if you put you ears right next to the vibrating thing, as in the case of headphones, you can still achieve subperb dynamic range together with other good stuffs.
Its true that one can unmistakably tell that a live band is playing, walking by a bar. That's because most bars have lousy electronics that its impossible for them to turn it up at the live level without sounding horribly distorted. So bar-live-music detection is a mixture of known facts and sound quality at the same time. However, some have reportedly mistakenly thought that their "normal" level music were played by real musicians (of course, plus or minus epsilon).
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