In Reply to: RE: Those darn measurements ! posted by morricab on June 27, 2017 at 02:04:51:
We never seem to be able to agree - My problem with the Meishu is that IT is the thing that is caramel and syrupy. It is a 300B lady amplifier as King of KingKo calls them. Good for the ladies - pretty, gentle caramel syrupy and dull.I agree with Peter's favorite tubes which are the 211, 45 and 2a3.
You're hearing the amplifier not the speaker. My suggestion to you is this - find your absolute favorite POWERFUL SS amplifier and put it on the AN E and crank the shit out of the volume - I mean play it LOUD LOUD with the highest level of impact bass recording and treble - cymbal crashes, drums, at PELTING levels.
Play this at 105dB+ and tell me the speakers are caramel. Don't let the froo froo classical music soft and tender people choose the lady music.
Peter Qvortrup had 500 copies of this album reproduced on vinyl. Pelting levels.
The Meishu is a nice 300B - It might even be a very good 300B. 300B is just so bloody MEH.
And the other dumb thing about the Meishu Silver Sig - it is STILL just an M2 preamp sharing the one box. For the same money you can buy the vastly superior M3 AND a pair of Empress Silver Monoblocks. Combined this is less money than the Meishu Silver. Same watts but way more balls. Lose some gentility and prettiness. But no caramel. Even the Jinro has some of that softness in the treble.
In fact you could skip AN's preamps all together - if you want the open sound look at the Emia Autoformer passive that Jack Roberts hails as the BEST sounding preamp ever made by anyone at any price (and it's under $5k).
You know better than most that tubes can have a valve sound which also mean they bring a softening to attack. Great decay. But Peter will say his amps are connecting the dots and provide proper note to note flow which may be but other amps have more splash in the treble. You aren't getting perfection at these lower price points you just don't get it all - so AN compromises by doling out a darker chocolatey and thicker sound which is wonderful on vocals and ambiance cues but not going to have the biggest treble sparkle. The King amp has more treble sparkle than the OTO. The Meishu is a boring ass amplifier in my opinion. Forget playing any rock or big band jazz on it. Empress and Jinro. And the Empress for half the price I prefer.
The 219IA is better than the Meishu IMO for rock - I'll give the Meishu the win on the gentle Eva Cassidy music but not for rock.
Edits: 06/27/17
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