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Yes--my choices on the samples--great minds (and hearts) think alike!

And while the openings of the 3rd and 4th are energetic, "frenzy" is not the word that comes to mind.

My impression is that Nelsons is very willing to take or to extend pauses in order to convey his conception of the architecture of a movement, and that for that reason, while there is energy, the forward momentum always has within it the possibility of being held in check, so there is never any feeling of being "out of control."

Swafford's liner notes argue that when Brahms wrote his publisher that "I still think catastrophe is coming," Brahms was referring to (Swafford's words) "Austria's rising tide of reaction and anti-Semitism."

So, if Nelsons shares that view, then frenzy I would think would be a double-edged sword.

The feeling-tone I get from Nelsons' 3rd and 4th is of autumnal wistfulness tinged with resignation.

ATB + Thanks,

jm

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