In Reply to: I just found MWE's original comments not untypical of certain types. . . posted by Chris from Lafayette on March 26, 2017 at 09:38:26:
I'm definitely not getting involved in your debate with jdaniel over the merits of Shostakovich, except to say jdaniel's comment about the banality of parts of his work is telling. I see that banality as intentional, and very much part of the dour, cynical, and bleak aspects of his personality that are often at the fore in his music. Even his taste for humor, and he does very much have one, is most often for ironic, black humor.
It takes immense skill to convey all of that downbeat stuff as effectively as he does, and he does it with music alone. You don't need the context of the holocaust or the siege of Leningrad, or any text, even when he sets his music to one, to get his message.
Still, it's an acquired taste, like Angostura bitters or uni (sea urchin sushi), or midwinter "polar bear" ocean swimming. I'm not going to try to sell you on it.
BTW -- Your wife doesn't share your interest in babe musicians?? What a surprise. ;-)
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Follow Ups
- RE: I just found MWE's original comments not untypical of certain types. . . - rbolaw 09:41:03 03/27/17 (25)
- Sure - but banality is banality, even if it's intentional and cynical - Chris from Lafayette 11:18:14 03/27/17 (24)
- Yes, around here at least, the ocean water is cold in the winter. - rbolaw 11:47:07 03/27/17 (14)
- Of course - Chris from Lafayette 16:51:16 03/27/17 (13)
- OK, but, - rbolaw 09:00:13 03/28/17 (12)
- I agree about Lieutenant Kije - except that that's by PROKOFIEV, not Shostakovitch - Chris from Lafayette 14:33:14 03/28/17 (10)
- Yes! I keep confusing Lt. Kije with The Nose. - rbolaw 16:49:44 03/28/17 (9)
- My favorite piece by Shostakovitch is "Song of the Forests"! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 18:19:35 03/28/17 (8)
- Now I KNOW you're yanking our chains... - MWE 18:41:58 03/28/17 (7)
- Hey, man - you questioning my taste? [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 19:43:18 03/28/17 (6)
- Yuk, yuk. - rbolaw 07:32:03 03/29/17 (0)
- Hee hee. nt. - MWE 19:50:22 03/28/17 (4)
- But wait! If Song of the Forests is as bad as "everyone" says it is. . . - Chris from Lafayette 19:55:08 03/29/17 (3)
- Ugh. Hideous cover. - rbolaw 09:20:21 03/30/17 (2)
- Hey, man - that's a proletariat cover with not a trace of formalism! - Chris from Lafayette 13:36:20 03/30/17 (1)
- You are CRACKING me UP!! - MWE 14:19:40 03/30/17 (0)
- Most eloquently put, RBO. nt. - MWE 12:40:37 03/28/17 (0)
- Why is it OK when Mahler does it? Nt - jdaniel@jps.net 11:45:13 03/27/17 (5)
- IMHO it's NOT OK when Mahler does it - Chris from Lafayette 16:37:46 03/27/17 (0)
- RE: Why is it OK when Mahler does it? Nt - rbolaw 12:43:10 03/27/17 (3)
- RE: Why is it OK when Mahler does it? Nt - Ivan303 18:33:06 03/27/17 (0)
- Still to this day: Fischer has no interest in recording Mahler's 8th. Nt - jdaniel@jps.net 12:46:33 03/27/17 (1)
- RE: "Fischer has no interest" -- I Have Similar re Listening to It, and - goldenthal 20:18:09 04/01/17 (0)
- RE: Sure - but banality is banality, even if it's intentional and cynical - MWE 11:43:33 03/27/17 (2)
- Anyone who sit thru Mahler's Rondo Burlesque or the Friar Jacque on the double bass should get what Shosty - jdaniel@jps.net 12:43:51 03/27/17 (1)
- Well, those examples are certainly NOT Mahler at his finest [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 16:39:23 03/27/17 (0)