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RE: This is why the live reference, attending live concerts, is paramount.

“The problem is that the sound field is different on different seats in the same venue, as has been shown my measurements:”

It’s not so much the “sound field” that is of benefit from the live reference, but training the listener on timbral and dynamic characteristics of the real thing. A definitive reference that helps one migrate toward that sonic ideal with his home sound reproduction.

Or in other words, if one hears an oboe on a recording, how would he know whether it sounded like how it was supposed to if he had never heard an oboe in the flesh?

“This fact makes the live reference a moving target.”

Maybe in regard to soundstage and perspective, but IMO there is a common tonal quality that I think provides an invaluable reference for seeking more lifelike sound from a home audio system.

“Further, you don't know where the mikes are placed during the recording of e.g. a symphony. Add the fact that loudspeakers radiate very differently as compared to musical instruments. I for one, in view of the above, have put the idea of using live concerts as reference to rest.”

This is all relative. My contention is if one does not attend live concerts, how would he know whether the sound he’s hearing from an audio system is “right?”

Prior to attending live concerts, I had pre-conceived notions of how live music probably sounded like, which after actual experience, turned out to be *far* off base. (For example, I thought live orchestral music was much louder than what it actually was. And I never thought live rock music could sound clean to where aside from the electric guitars, everything sounded “acoustical”, even when amplified.) And had I never attended a live concert, I would have tailored the sound of my system toward those pre-conceived notions, rather than what was experienced. And I believe the end result would have been a vastly-inferior sonic presentation.

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