- Posted by dave c (A) on March 19, 2007 at 15:09:15
I guess some subjects are not preferred discussions with some people.
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I guess some subjects are not preferred discussions with some people.
I'm glad it was removed. I didn't comment on it originally as I needed to change the kitty litter box, which wasn't quite as odious as CJs post, but stunk nonetheless. As to my questioning it, and THAT being post being removed...such is life. Ain't my joint, I just hang out hear...There are more important things at hand. Such as I need to listen to the NY at Massey Hall CD again...that's one good listen!
"I always play jazz records backwards, they sound better that way"
-Thomas Edison
It is weird. We talk about some pretty crazy stuff here and it does get heated, but I don't understand this at all. Also, after researching the term used by CJ in the original post, it was educational. I had no idea the black community had a name for such characters, but it does exist, and as a white man it has made me reconsider such a character type.I wonder how long this post will last.............
Now you've got me curious. I wonder if I know it already.This deletion crap is getting old. I didn't understand the deletion of the thread of political jokes a couple weeks ago either. Unfortunately, I missed this thread the first time entirely.
dh
The term is "Magical Negro". It is a term coined by, I think Spike Lee, who came up with it to describe characters who are black and possess magical powers, but apparently still need a white protagonist to see a goal or endeavour to its end or success. This type of character has become prevalent in many films and stories, Steven King being one example in such stories as "The Shining" and the "Green Mile".
And no, I didn't know it. Lee is a very perceptive and fair man. If you haven't seen films School Daze or Do The Right Thing, you really should.
dh
Not a huge fan of either one of those, but I have Malcom X on DVD and enjoyed it a great deal.
Malcolm is actually a real hero of mine. He also happens to be the most misunderstood and misrepresented civil rights leader in American history.
dh
When I saw "Malcum X" I realised that he could of 10X's the leader
of a Jessie, or an Al, or Louis.
I think he could of done a lot of good for us all.GTF
BTW Denzel was supurb.
Malcolm was transcendent, especially at the end of his life. There is plenty of footage of the man himself. Check it out.BTW, had they lived, I believe MLK and Malcolm would have been working together by the end of the 60s.
And please, do learn how to spell "Malcolm" please, or were you just being sarcastic?
dh
Some wine. a 10 year headache. I don't always spell correctly.I will pickup the dvd of that movie.
I want my youngest son to see it.GTF
Should be mandatory reading for every American. Thanks for the clarification.
dh
But with my head reading past a few paragraph's becomes questionable.
I'll settle for watching the movie for the 3 or 4 th time.GTF
In what way?
... to a large number of successful black people.
Would it be used about sports stars whose teams are owned by white controlled boards/corporations/people
At least in the music business more and more black acts are working with black run labels, even if distribution tends to still be with white controlled companies. I am aware of the large amount of generalisations in my previous sentence.
WOuld Spike Lee himself be a "magical negro" for having to have worked his way through the major studios?
I have never heard the term either and I am not sure if the word "negro" is widely used in the Afro-American community.
This is not a real life character or person, but a TYPE of "stock" character if you will, that pops up in literature and movies from time to time. The two named as examples are appropriate. I haven't heard Lee talk about it, but I assume he sees this as another in a long line of caricatures that subtly (or in many cases, not-so-subtly) denigrate blacks by suggesting that those which are exceptional are merely savants who need a white sponsor to realize their potential. It's an extension of the concept of blacks as the "white man's burden". He has a point, IMO. At the same time, the characters named are a far cry from the emotionless rag-dolls that comprise so many depictions of blacks in older films, especially in the US. We have made considerable progress, but that's not to say we're done.
dh
I will have to look into it.
If they need a white guy... gonna be a guy isn't it?... to realise their potential then that would make them the equivalent of an undeveloped, or unutilised resource. More like mineral or oil resources. Again the subjugation.
I am fumbling for an all encompassing theory of the black person as an unused... and therefore available to be used "natural" resource thus multiplying the stereotype of black culture being less advanced than white culture... it may be a step too far... especially without more thinking...
Just Google the phrase. I think you'll come away agreeing that some of the characters portrayed in movies fit this archetype. Some of the ones you'll read about you may not agree with. One I didn't agree with is Sidney Poitier's character in "The Defiant Ones". I saw Poitier's character as easily the equal of Tony Curtis' character in that film, and in no way subordinate.
... I would guess that the power balance was automatically portrayed that way.
Do you remember the TV series of I Spy?
> > I guess some subjects are not preferred discussions with some people.A. That's right. We got more than one complaint about the original, agreed with the concerns, and acted accordingly.
B. As for the removal of the query about why it was gone, see A., above; There was no point in starting up on the topic, again.
Fax mentis incendium gloria cultum, et cetera, et cetera...
Memo bis punitor delicatum! It's all there, black and white,
clear as crystal! Blah, blah, and so on and so forth ...
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I cannot see how the subject of the original post is the same as the subject of the query about its removal.
And thus I fail to see any reason for the removal of the query.
Does the logic follow through to the removal of THIS entire thread as it is a query about the query?
That would of course necessitate the deletion of your own post.
Confused? You will be!
......……However the greatest weakness I have seen on the AA forums is consistency. It is somewhat understandable as amateur moderators are far more prone to acting on a whim than otherwise maybe be the case if moderating was their full-time job.I must say the logic, or more correctly ‘lack there of’, applied by the Bored in this thread is simply hypocritical and wrong.
Of course as has been pointed out many times by the Bored that they will do whatever they damn well like and if anyone here doesn’t like it we can take a hike.
Regardless of my view of the logic applied I don’t think the issue warrants more than a cursory ‘sigh’.
Smile
Sox
and they can't read everything, either. All in all, they've done a pretty good job of keeping things sane.Old story, but once upon a time my email box started to get full of comments and requests for help from people on the Asylum. Rod couldn't replicate the problem and it only happened for a few hours, but what it did do is open my eyes to the kind of crap the moderators deal with. Some of it is valid, some of it is stupid, some of it falls into the middle somewhere. Actually most fell into the first two categories.
The moderators deserve a break, believe me. They must do a decent job, because the Asylum has maintained a consistent level of sanity for years.......and we have been through a lot of changes.
.......………I doubt I would disagree with your sentiments. For all intents and purposes the Asylum is a pretty well run site.However, I see nothing wrong with voicing my opinion to what I see as hypocritical logic applied by the Bored in this thread. Surely people here reading this can’t be offended by polite criticism of the Bored?
Any arbitrary system will generate criticism from time to time (rightly so in my view)
Smile
Sox
but nothing political or thought provoking please
Shit I gotta go!
Jakey's trying to hump Abigail!!
attached! Never did I suspect it was because he used the name of Barack Obama, yet again!!And, in the wrong context!
"I always play jazz records backwards, they sound better that way"
-Thomas Edison
and agree with it being removed. Some stuff can be a bit over the top sometimes.....no matter what the "educational" benefits.
