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In Reply to: So once again, someone bashes a product or company because... posted by tketcham on September 17, 2006 at 08:13:59:
I've run into this on many sites too and not just on here.Sometimes though the product does indeed suck and should be called so but on the other hand, I've heard just enough better stuff than what I have to know the difference and know that when auditioning in a showroom, the gear may or may not be setup correctly.
I've heard the Project tables, namly the 1.2 and the 2.0, the Music Hall (I think) and of course the P3 and I think the P25 at the time (now supplanted with the P5 and P7) - all of these were a few years back and I know from experience that the tables were most likely not set up right nor had the best carts available and one of them the Project? had an Exact (I think) on it, and it left me uninspired and I knew it was not ideally setup and was mentioning it here and I believe I even indicated so.
But in the end, a good review is when you consider the environment the product is in, it's setup etc and also stand back and try to find something positive about the product. I think too many people do not take the time to think it through and just fire off a quickie and diss if it sucks.
A good review takes time and most people don't want to take that time I think.
In the end though, despite what many say about the Rega, I'd consider them in the future, but most likely the P5 or P7 instead of the P3, as cool looking it is and I'm glad they finally dropped the P2 as from all accounts it may not have been as good as the P3 and higher even though it looked almost identical to the P3 in looks but performance wise, it seemed wanting compared to the rest of the table lineup from Rega.
Meanwhile the Shure M97xE is making listening to vinyl much more enjoyable again. :-)
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especially if you have not used one. In my opinion and experience the P2 is one of the best bargains out there. I get very beautiful vinyl music from mine in my system,and don't feel any need to upgrade it.
I'm not knocking the P2 and I may have heard a derivative of it in either the Project or Music Hall so may well have an idea (sort of) how it sounds.But from various people who have had them, they do find it wanting compared to other tables, such as the more expensive Regas in comparison. Not that it's a bad deck and it'll certainly be an improvement on my more modest mass market Kendwood.
"I may have heard a derivative of it in either the Project or Music Hall so may well have an idea (sort of) how it sounds"Rega products have nothing remotely to do with Pro-ject products. Music Hall products are designed and made by Pro-ject.
Um, I think I recall reading here on AA about 5 or 6 years ago that one of them, and I forget who now uses a design based on the Rega but make the tables themselves. That is what I meant by derivatives.Now I could be wrong and I was going by root memory.
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Thank you. I needed the clarification. It's been a while.Looking back on it, I had only heard the Music Hall and perhaps the NAD but not the Project but have heard the Rega, perhaps the P2 but definately the 3 and 25 though.
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